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Route it yourself.
I had a realization today regarding bridge pickups and output levels
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Route it yourself.
Rex_Rocker
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I don't think Glen manipulates the results other than yeah, his steering of opinion. It's pretty common knowledge that subtletites get lost *for the most part* in the mix, though. Then again, for me, a good mix engineer is all about subtleties.
Rex_Rocker
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Just checked, and I couldn't tell either. I liked none of the tones, TBH, but none of them were blistering high-gain (like I like them). I expect to be surprised, though.
Like I said, as it is right now, my Strat actually sounds way fatter than my Les Paul.
ToneFiddler
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depending on the recording technique, differences are highlighted or you make everything sound the same.
I am sure he is capable of both, but think he chose to use the 2nd one to prove his point.
Hell i don't have 2 Les Pauls sounding the same with the same pickups. Does the difference matter? To the audience surely not. To me? hell yes!
I am sure he is capable of both, but think he chose to use the 2nd one to prove his point.
Hell i don't have 2 Les Pauls sounding the same with the same pickups. Does the difference matter? To the audience surely not. To me? hell yes!
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Inflames626
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It's a bit further toward the neck than my Floyded MIJ Kellys from 95-05.
Also I doubt I'd ever buy a fixed bridge Strat unless it was a 7 string. I'll have to check my collection.
My Kelly bridge pickup looks close to the Floyd--about like the rear screw hole positioning on the George Lynch pic posted.
Inflames626
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Most of us, when we hear albums we like, probably imagine what gear our favorite artists are using based on the sounds.
Then if you see studio footage you realize the gear isn't what you heard in your head at all.
I still try to visually match a guitar to a tone I hear in my head. For example, my warm bluesy guitars will tend to be LPs, my metal guitars will be Explorers or anything pointy, and so on.
Then if you see studio footage you realize the gear isn't what you heard in your head at all.
I still try to visually match a guitar to a tone I hear in my head. For example, my warm bluesy guitars will tend to be LPs, my metal guitars will be Explorers or anything pointy, and so on.
eclecticsynergy
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It came with the guitar, originally an HSS pickguard (you can see the holes from the original neck singlecoil).
I suspect locating the pickup extra close to the bridge was intended to help the humbucker tone match the singles better.
Didn't have any tools back then. I actually carved out a humbucker-sized hole with a kitchen knife and a file; made the holes with a heated nail.
Used the same knife a year later to expand the bridge hum hole so I could move the pickup. Pretty crude seen up close, but it worked.
I gigged the guitar that way for two decades before switching pickups, to a Parallel Axis set. Still using the same pickguard, now painted dark red.
EDIT: Y'know, thinking about it, IMO sellers ought to list the bridge pickup placement as part of the specs.
Some are extra far like the Jacksons, others like this one are extra close.
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beaubrummels
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To be honest, all four sounded distinct to me, meaning each was indeed different. But saying which is which blind is the next level. (I have my own opinion, which could be wrong. Just waiting for the follow up vid reveal.)
ToneFiddler
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it's the other way round for me.
I don't claim to know what the artists are using. At first i will try to get it with my stuff.
If this isn't close enough i will start researching what they used and see if that will get me any closer.
If it will get me real close, than i am convinced and might claim to know what they used.
But there aren't too many examples which will motivate me to do that.
An example: Soundgardens "Fell on black days". I tried the intro with a Filtertron. Never came close enough. Next guess: Tele. No Tele is probably the left side.
Research resulted in a Jazzmaster with heavy strings -> Nah, i don't like it that much to go down that route.
But there are several records where i guessed i hear a mesa rectifier and i indeed was right. But which guitar they use is hard to make out.
The Strat notch sounds are usually easy to make out. But tele vs strat can already be hard.
Filtertrons are usually very distinctive and are hard to mimic with other PUs unless maybe with parallel configs.
Sometimes it's obvious somebody is using a ceramic screamer, but if you look at the VH1 one debates, it's not that clear cut after all.
Also the Jimmy Page Tele vs Les Paul debate.
ToneFiddler
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Yes i can hear differences, but i don't know which is which, too. But it's the symbiosis between guitar and pickup that really matters. If I would know the guitars in person, and they all would have the same pickup, i could probably tell.
Some of my guitars i really know well, and they have some charateristics which never really dissapear, no matter the pickup.
But i have to many guitars right now, i would fail to guess them all in a blind test even accoustically.
I only would bet money on the once i own the longest.
I have no doubt there are strats (with HBs) out there that will sound beafier than 3 of my LPs. The other 2, i am convinced it will be hard.
There is no hard rules what a specific guitar LP/Explorer/SG/Srat will sound like, but of course we have our stereotypical sound in mind, what they are supossed to sound like.
I use pickups to compensate the natural sound of the guitar to make them work with the same setup, or to get rid of something that annoys me with the current setup
ToneFiddler
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That Bridge PU is really way forward. would love to try that setup. Bet it sounds good. Doesn't look like it's already in the middle PU range. Would have to make sure it will not bother me when pickin though.
What bothers me about the look is the small distance from bridge to neck PU, but that is more the 24 fret thing.
I have had a strat (solid koa, pau ferro neck, OFR) that sounds so humongously fat and chunky. If an average LP is Jennifer Lopez or Salma Hayek, this guitar is Lizzo.
Long time ago I made a custom pickguard for my swimming pool Strat body and put channel routes for pickup screws and routed out the center. That way I could slide any pickup and tighten it wherever. Amazing what changes. I notice I like my neck pickup closer a lil closer to rhe bridge
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