I have a hunch that a 9.5k Alnico 8 may be a missing link for most of todays agressiv

[Zhangliqun]

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So could someone theoretically take any 9.5k humbucker and use an A8 magnet with it to try this out?

It looks like a lot of folks in here are about to do exactly that when their orders come in. So stay tuned...

 

[Zhangliqun]

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I may make one, I got a Shattner winder and a small rewind service here at home.

The Shattner winder, huh? Does it come with a brown toupee? And if it slows down some, does it say "Scotty, damn it man, I must have MORE POWER!"

 

[gripweed]

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It looks like a lot of folks in here are about to do exactly that when their orders come in. So stay tuned...

With what pickups? The Demon is in that range, but I would think that the highs would be much too screechy,piercing or whatever amorphous adjective you guys use for pickups. I would think that Dimarzios would have the same or similar problem in that range because of the mismatched coils...

 

[Zhangliqun]

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Zhangliun, i have a custom made A5 11k humbucker, too. Which delivers a fat overdrive sound and is cleaning well with the volume pot. But the humbucker clean and parallel sound is not that great. My last thought was to let the slug coil down to 4.5k to get a 10k Unbucker.

Funny you should mention "un-buckering" it: my 11.2k pickup (I call it the Big Dog) was purpose wound as a very un-bucker. The screw coil is 6.7k and the slug coil is 4.5k. Because the coil closest to the bridge is the strongest, it keeps plenty treble and detail and gives the Big Dog plenty of bite to go with its bark.

If you do drop about 1k off the slug coil, it will be brighter and not have as much midrange, but maybe to your ear you can afford to let out some of that midrange. But below I think I have a better solution (Spin-A-Split).

I especially dissapointed with the parallel sound, which is not by any means good as a parallel sound of a JB. Why that?

That I can't help you with much because I'm not a fan of either the parallel sound or a pure split sound. I vastly prefer the Spin-A-Split, where you wire the coil split lead to the middle lug of a pot (with one lug grounded of course). This allows you to have one coil operating in full while letting you dial in as much or as little of the second coil as you want. I have my Big Dog wired this way.

This way you have a dial that will let you make your pickup as "un-bucker" as you want, while even keeping the options of pure humbucker and pure single coil at the extremes. This is serious tonal versatility...

The only downside is you have to give up one of the pots in your guitar for this function -- and it's not as noise-free as parallel wiring because it's not fully humbucking unless you have the dial all the way up.

 

[Zhangliqun]

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With what pickups? The Demon is in that range, but I would think that the highs would be much too screechy,piercing or whatever amorphous adjective you guys use for pickups.

Why? Alnico 8 by Wicked Lester's description doesn't have any more highs than Alnico 5. And he says the highs are bit sweeter and more rounded.

I would think that Dimarzios would have the same or similar problem in that range because of the mismatched coils...

There's a lot more pickups out there than Duncan and DiMarzio. Lindy Fralin will make you 9.5k pickups all day long if you like. And his are never pre-disposed toward shrillness or piercing. Bare Knuckle makes pickups in this range too.

 

[Buck Cannon]

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Hi, The 17 products --I created-- I'm not a fan of them-- not my cup of tea-- but the single and the humbucker I left behind --- are infact that Company's BEST SELLERS..for what ever thats worth????
To me and all my close friends who play around--clubs where I do. the basic design I had to work with and not totally change completely ( which in reality - really needed done!), That design is far too compressed and flat with Volume string to string issues depending on who used them, They just were not brassy -- nor Vocal or chocolaty enough, they were rather flat . pale and weak in compairisons to standard designs-- including stacks. ahummmLaceSenseeeeerrrrrbarffff opps I coughed! sorry

The 2 pups I get full credit for are Tele pups from a "boo-teak" winder. my web site has clues.

 

[twoheadedboy]

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I love the idea of being able to vary the amount of each coil in a humbucker using a separate pot for varying degrees of "unbucker-ness." That's a killer idea and I'd love to try it.

 

[Zhangliqun]

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Re: I have a hunch that a 9.5k Alnico 8 may be a missing link for most of todays agressiv

I love the idea of being able to vary the amount of each coil in a humbucker using a separate pot for varying degrees of "unbucker-ness." That's a killer idea and I'd love to try it.

Do it. It's one of the easiest mods there is and it's just as easily reversible if you don't like it.

The cool thing is that if you have a multi-meter, you can plug a short (6") cord into the guitar and put the 2 probes on the tip and sleeve of the other end of the cord, you can see the overal DC resistance go up and down as you turn the Spin-A-Split knob. And the tone roughly corresponds with the resistance reading you get at each stop on the dial, e.g., at, say, 8.5k it sounds more or less like you would expect an 8.5k humbucker to sound -- EXCEPT of course brighter (if you're dialing the slug coil in and out) than your average 8.5k bucker.

 

[papersoul]

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I think most high gain platyers prefer a hotter pickups for a thicker tone.

 

[Davey]

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well.. for a fact i know that a hotter vintage wind paired with a ceramic magnet makes for a VERY ****ing loud pup.

the loose ends of the vintage wind are made tighter by the ceramic and the output is fit for full metal onslaught

 

[Zhangliqun]

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I think most high gain platyers prefer a hotter pickups for a thicker tone.

Of course.

 

[Coma]

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Didn't bother reading through the entire thread, So I dunno if anyone already asked this, but how does A8's compare to Ceramics?

 

[Zhangliqun]

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Didn't bother reading through the entire thread, So I dunno if anyone already asked this, but how does A8's compare to Ceramics?

Wicked Lester is the only one in here with battlefield experience on this, but from what he said, it's like the best qualities of Alnico 2, 5, and ceramic all rolled into one.