I need some advise ASAP!

Inferno

Inferno

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I just got a Hamar standard that I bought off ebay last week. The problem: there's an almost 2 inch long crack in the finish near the neck joint that wasn't stated in the auction as well as the "Seymour Duncan '59" pickups being the duncan designed versions. :argh:

Besides the problems, the guitar rocks. It feels solid and plays nice. Should I ask for a partial refund or ship the whole thing back?

If I go the second rout, should I ask the guy to cover the price to ship the guitar back? Thanks for your help!
 
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go back and double check the description.
if you are sure that it doesnt mention that stuff, ship it back, and make them pay the shipping back
 
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ask for a partial refund. I dont know how much you paid for the guitar, but ask for enough to buy the real deal on the 59's, and get a quote on repairing the crack.
 
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Inferno said:
Thanks! I checked the description and no mention of the problems. Here's the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&item=140003718690&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

How much is a typical crack repair?
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Kinda depends whether its a finish crack, or if it goes into the wood. If its a finish crack, Thats really nothing to worry about and I personally wouldn't even bother repairing it (although I would expect a partial refund due to the seller not discloseing that information). Finish cracks near the neck join is fairly common and nothing to worry about.
Now if its into the wood, I would return it immediately, and Make sure the seller pays shipping charges. Thats a major problem, and deffinately should have been disclosed.
 
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That could possibly just be what's known as "Hameritis", Hamers are somewhat well known for finish checking at the neck joint. If it's not any more serious than that I'd just ask for a partial refund, at least enough to cover your choice of pickups. If you like the way the guitar plays/looks then why get rid of it?
 
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Man I hate it when they try to slide one under the radar like that. One time a guy tried that with me and then even had the gaul to refuse to give me my money back! luckily he only lived an hour drive away. Me and a couple of my friends drove down there and told him how good business should be haha(gave me my money back plus the money for gas for the trip)

EDIT:haha for got to say what I was going to say...yeah I'd atleast get compensated for the not as good pickups. Check into the crack also. if its serious just return it.
 
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bro, I dont think that's a finish crack. It looks more like the joint of several pieces of wood.
 
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beandip said:
bro, I dont think that's a finish crack. It looks more like the joint of several pieces of wood.
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Based on the s****y pics I posted I would think the same too, however under better light you can see the hairline crack. You can also feel it.

I emailed the seller asking for a refund equal to the price of a set of '59's. I'm not worrying about the crack. Thanks all for the advice!
:yourock:
 
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I saw this auction.

You got scammed bro. Thats a Korean import Hamer. You'll notice in the questions section he answers one time its a USA the second time it's Korean. But his description is for a USA standard...flame maple cap??? crown inlays???? don't see those in the pics.

I would be raising Holy Freaking Hell cos he def lied flat out in his auction.., though at the same time, I wonder if you read the description before you placed your bid? or did any research on Hamers?
 
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JeffB said:
I saw this auction.

You got scammed bro. Thats a Korean import Hamer. You'll notice in the questions section he answers one time its a USA the second time it's Korean. But his description is for a USA standard...flame maple cap??? crown inlays???? don't see those in the pics.

I would be raising Holy Freaking Hell cos he def lied flat out in his auction.., though at the same time, I wonder if you read the description before you placed your bid? or did any research on Hamers?
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Good call Jeff. Personally Inferno I don't know how you possibly brought yourself to buy that guitar when the person was blatantly lying in the auction description. If I had of seen his description, which I assume is just copied and pasted from the Hamer site regarding the USA model, then the pics not matching the description followed by the fact that he answers the same question differently I wouldn't go any where near that auction.

Although I agree that you should ask for a partial refund regarding the pickups I would suggest that you research your next purchase a little more thoroughly.
 
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He seems to correct himself about it geing Korean. He would have been unable to make that correction after the auction was over, or within a certain number of hours of it ending. Also, he states the pickups are stock. A tiny bit of research would have revealed that stock korean hamer pups are DD's.

On the crack, I'm kinda with beandip on that one. It looks like a neck joint to me.

Here's the deal, if it plays well and you like it, you should keep it. If it is something that bugs you now, it'll bug you a lot more later on.

We expect sellers on ebay, especially ones with 60 feedbacks, to accurately describe a guitar. That was not the case on the scratch/finish check. He definitely mis-labeled the pickups as well, but I personally don't think it was intentional.

I'd suspect that you'll get some fair resolution from this guy as he seems like a longtme seller.
 
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I guess "scammed" is not the word I wanted to use. But no doubt this guy either had no idea what he was talking about, or was misleading (in the least).

That said, the auction description was flat out incorrect even after he realized (?) it was a MIK. He lifted the USA standard description for it...there is no maple cap...no trap inlays, its not mahogany, not schaller tuners, etc etc.

He should know what he is selling, period. But the buyer also has some repsonsibility in these cases.

This is a tough call. The joint on these looks more pronounced cos it's an alder body/maple neck and a light colored/see through finish. And sometimes you CAN feel the joint just cos of (lack of) QC. I could feel it on the Hamer MIK vector I tried as well as some Epi Vs and Explorers I've messed with. (btw, Hameritis is not the case here...that was due to the old lacquer finish Hamer used on its USA guitars. This is most def poly)

just chalk it up as a learning experience I guess. :blackeye:

Hope it works out for ya regardless, Inferno!
 
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I knew, despite the misleading product description, what I was getting: A Korean made Hamar Standard. I could clearly see there were no crown inlays and no top binding. I was just after what was pictured in the auction.

I foolishly hoped that the pickups were indeed the Seymour Duncan '59's as the auction said. I got what I expected, with the exception of the pickups and the slight problem with the finish around the neck-joint. The seller gave me a partial refund no questions asked.

FYI - The seller was a person who sold items for others and it sounds like the owner lied to her. She refunded me what was fair and I have no complaints. Thanks again to everyone who responded.

:smokin:
 
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