I need some hints from you shredders...

Re: I need some hints from you shredders...

I have to disagree with the post above...

Don't learn too many of Kirks solo's. I used to love him, and learned all the Metallica solos, and only recently have I been able to get out of pentatonic e minor type of playing rut that learning all his stuff put me in.

Learn some old Megadeth, Freidman and Poland.
 
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shreder75 said:
I still can't beleive to this day that KH was a student of satch...ugh...no offense to any of his fans, but look at the difference between KH and Vai....
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... and look at what has happened to every band Vai has ever been a part of. Sorry to be the nerd who sticks up for Kirk, but seriously, that's kind of a silly comparison. I agree wholly that Kirk is overrated, but so is just about everybody who has a huge hype.

Besides, Larry Lalonde totally owns the rest of them :D
 
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DeadSkinSlayer3 said:
I used to love him, and learned all the Metallica solos, and only recently have I been able to get out of pentatonic e minor type of playing rut that learning all his stuff put me in.
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...Ure 14 and you can play all Kirk's stuff? And 'Only recently' been able to get out of that habit? How long have you been playing? Must be sum kinda boy genius..
 
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3 years this June ;)

I practice 3-4 hours on schooldays, 4-6 on weekends. And it's spring break now, home with only an older brother and sister, who happen to be frequently out to school or work :)

Pile that I'm getting my RR-1 in 2 days...Lots of practice time.
 
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Lol, right now i see why :) I probably only get to practise 1 hour a day during school and probably only 2ish at the weekends... Still... off to guitar college next year!! Guitar 24/7!!! What could be better?!?!
 
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Chace said:
Guitar 24/7!!! What could be better?!?!
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2 Blondes, a brunette... :32:

I'm not even going to go there ;).
 
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JB_From_Hell said:
... and Larry LaLonde (Primus).
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This is why I should read EVERY post on a board! I thought I was being Informative! You beat me to it.
 
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DeadSkinSlayer3 said:
Learn some old Megadeth, Freidman and Poland.
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100% agree. i love megadeth. Mustaine writes great stuff. Every note seems to fit in perfectly. And they have great lead guitarists, maybe too many...
 
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JB_From_Hell said:
... and look at what has happened to every band Vai has ever been a part of. Sorry to be the nerd who sticks up for Kirk, but seriously, that's kind of a silly comparison. I agree wholly that Kirk is overrated, but so is just about everybody who has a huge hype.

Besides, Larry Lalonde totally owns the rest of them :D
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never did I say that Vai belongs in a band context =) and besides, hetfield writes and has always written all of metallica's songs..or at least the majority of them..not to mention the fact that in the studio, he, for a very long time, recorded all the rythm parts as well..fact, not fiction =) so, based on what they both produce, Vai is better..all things being equal..

I wasn't comparing band success...I was comparing musical ability...and there is no comparison...

besides, metallica fans are rabid (no offense)..if they were to put out a polka album, their fans would make it go triple platinum...

hheheh..ok, I sound like a **** now...lmao..oh well..I just can't stand KH
 
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colz10 said:
100% agree. i love megadeth. Mustaine writes great stuff. Every note seems to fit in perfectly. And they have great lead guitarists, maybe too many...
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indeed, at his best, Mustaine couldn't be touched as far as riffs are concerned..in my opinion..

to this day, I still consider Wake up Dead one of the best pure guitar songs ever written..

and let's not forget the riff for set the world afire...great stuff....when he's bad he's bad..don't get me wrong..but when he's on, he's just outta control
 
Re: I need some hints from you shredders...

u have any clips, DEADSKIN? interested in hearing your playing, judging by your influences
 
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DeadSkinSlayer3 said:
3 years this June ;)

I practice 3-4 hours on schooldays, 4-6 on weekends. And it's spring break now, home with only an older brother and sister, who happen to be frequently out to school or work :)

Pile that I'm getting my RR-1 in 2 days...Lots of practice time.
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How great it would have been to take up guitar in the years before endless coursework got piled upon me. :rolleyes:


+1 for some clips if possible DSS3, you obviously put in the effort big time, so let us hear it! :saeek:
 
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I'm pretty sure Kirk was a student of Satch only for a very short time before the recording of Kill 'em All.

I don't want to be a moronic metalli-cop but seriously the Kirk bashing just goes too far sometimes. On the other hand I can't stand it when people think he's the best in the world. He's fitted in with the band like a glove ever since he joined. Nothing more and nothing less. It's irrelevant if someone else can play cirlces around him or if he gets overly praised by the inept media/general public. In the context of Metallica he's doing his job well.

Yes, he is overrated but so are plenty of other guitarists who get famous.
 
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Well back to the original question at hand..

Depending on how you position your hand when you usually solo, you would use your first middle and pinky if you put your thumb on the back of the neck, or if you just wrap your thumb around the neck where your fingers go at a diagonal, you should just use your first middle and ring like I do. I find you can be faster and definately more accurate unless you use your pinky for everything, or if you have long fingers and the 12 15 17 stretches are easy for you all the way down to the B/G strings.

Dave uses the 12 15 17 thing ALL the time in his solos, so if you play some of his stuff, kirks solos will come together without much effort. If you need an example heres his solo on Devils Island, which is played at about the same speed but is harder in my opinion cause of the places he stops to go to another string tricks you.


e|-17-15-12------------------------------------|
B|---------17-15-12--12--17-15-12--------------|
G|-----------------15------------15-14-12------|
D|---------------------------------------14-12-|
A|---------------------------------------------|
E|---------------------------------------------|

e|--------------------------------------------------|
B|-17-15-12-----------------------------------------|
G|---------15-14-12-------15-14-12------------------|
D|-----------------14-12----------15-14-12----------|
A|-----------------------------------------14\---7~-|
E|--------------------------------------------------|
 
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shreder75 said:
besides, metallica fans are rabid (no offense)..if they were to put out a polka album, their fans would make it go triple platinum...
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you hit the nail on the head here - outside of the forum (in the real world, like) you come across some real knobends - kind of 'if it aint metallica, its not as good as metallica'

tom
 
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Now now lets not stereotype :rolleyes: I'm a Metallica fan but I didn't buy the pile o' bollocks that is St.Anger... that albums not worth the CD's its burnt on
 
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I agree IMP

Chace--metallica fan? that's it..I can't talk to you anymore..lmao...j/k =) glad to hear you didn't buy st. anger..ugh, what I heard was horrible...
 
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Lol, do Maiden, Pantera, Black Label Society, Megadeth, Dream Theater & Slayer make up for anything? :)

Oh and btw thanks alot to all you guys who helped me out, I mastered that solo today after slowing the tempo down to 60BPM and working upto 200 over about an hour and a half long period :cool:
 
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ah, maiden, pantera, megadeth, definetly make up for it =) dream theater does..if you're talkin' older stuff..heheheh ;)
 
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