I sometimes still feel like my ENGL isnt up to scratch...

[Young Angus]

Its actually been behaving really well lately, but today i went into the local music shop and overheard someone playing an ENGL thunder 50 head through an ENGL 2x12 cab and it sounded so good! Made me think that my Savage should at least sound as good as that...even though they are different amps and im just thinking that mine should sound better cos its bigger and more expensive which is a very juvenile and wrong attitude to take i know.

But when i heard that smaller ENGL sounding so good it made me think that my ENGL isnt up to scratch or something, mine just doesnt have the depth or smoothness which that thunder seemed to have. And ive actually played my ENGL in that same room and it sounded just like it does in my room so its not the room.

Just thought id have a rant, not sure what im asking or what i should do about it, but ill rant anyway

:smack:

 

[nuntius]

Re: I sometimes still feel like my ENGL isnt up to scratch...

if they are different amps maybe you just prefer the other one

if you want the other one more why dont you trade?

 

[Young Angus]

Re: I sometimes still feel like my ENGL isnt up to scratch...

Nah ill get over it

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: I sometimes still feel like my ENGL isnt up to scratch...

That's why I went with an Engl preamp ... this way, I could dial in the final sound with the power amp; brighter/looser = Marshall ... darker/tighter = Mesa. I ended up going with the Marshall EL34 100/100. The sound is cool; not Engl, and not Marshall.

 

[y2stevo]

Re: I sometimes still feel like my ENGL isnt up to scratch...

Dude are you using an attenuator? If not then that could be your problem, Especially because its a 120watt amp!

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: I sometimes still feel like my ENGL isnt up to scratch...

Ya know, the Savage uses 6550 power tubes, and the Thunder uses 5881 ... this is probably the difference you are hearing, my friend. I don't know if they are hot swappable, but if they are ... you should give it a try!!

BTW, did anyone see the new Engl 580 preamp? Yee-oow!! It's HOT!!!

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: I sometimes still feel like my ENGL isnt up to scratch...

Dude are you using an attenuator? If not then that could be your problem, Especially because its a 120watt amp!

Nah, I don't think an attenuated 120W head will sound as good as a full-throttle 50W ... are you suggesting that in order to match the volume of the two heads?

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: I sometimes still feel like my ENGL isnt up to scratch...

Not getting a good sound out of the Savage???
Man that thing must be a dud!
:laugh2:

 

[Young Angus]

Re: I sometimes still feel like my ENGL isnt up to scratch...

Its not a bad sound, just that i heard what the guy was playing today and it sounded really smooth and, well, just really good tone. But he was playing a les paul classic with gibson ceramic pickups as opposed to my standard with BB-pros...which are quite different animals.

The Savage gets a good sound but i sometimes wonder if its as good as its supposed to be...ill figure it out

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: I sometimes still feel like my ENGL isnt up to scratch...

Hmm maybe it will help if you did not worry so much about it, it also has a huge impact on how a player interacts with the guitar and amp.
Something that works for somebody else may not work at all for you.
Just play, maybe one day it will surprise you???
Or maybe the thing is simply not for you?

 

[GHWelles]

Re: I sometimes still feel like my ENGL isnt up to scratch...

Try different preamp tubes and different power amp tubes. It can change the character and tone greatly.

 

[y2stevo]

Re: I sometimes still feel like my ENGL isnt up to scratch...

Nah, I don't think an attenuated 120W head will sound as good as a full-throttle 50W ... are you suggesting that in order to match the volume of the two heads?

No but an attenuated 120watt head would sound better than a non attenuated 120watt head, well of course at safe levels, i seriously doubt that he can blast the Engl at full throttle in his room without having serious case of deafness..

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: I sometimes still feel like my ENGL isnt up to scratch...

No but an attenuated 120watt head would sound better than a non attenuated 120watt head, well of course at safe levels, i seriously doubt that he can blast the Engl at full throttle in his room without having serious case of deafness..

That's pretty interesting ... I will have to experiment on that, and post a thread about it! :laugh2:

 

[y2stevo]

Re: I sometimes still feel like my ENGL isnt up to scratch...

That's pretty interesting ... I will have to experiment on that, and post a thread about it! :laugh2:

LOL, to prove you can go deaf in such incidents?

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: I sometimes still feel like my ENGL isnt up to scratch...

LOL! Yes! I'll keep my SPL meter handy, tho ...

 

[Maximusgordon 2.0]

Re: I sometimes still feel like my ENGL isnt up to scratch...

I think we all may be thinking to much. Go play a LP Standard and an LP Classic through the same amp and listen...... yah, HUGE difference! I think your just into hot, rich, thick sounding pickups like the ones in the LP Classic. I had the same experience with a Gibson Goldtone, a friend has one and there was one at a music store and one sounded real thick and fat for leads and the other sounded sweet to but as far as just plain old initially "catching someones ear" with fat tone goes, those hot pickups are usually what does it.

 

[Young Angus]

Re: I sometimes still feel like my ENGL isnt up to scratch...

I think i do worry about this stuff too much and i just need to play...and that goes for anyone else worrying their pretty little axe weilding heads off too...just play!

Thats what im gonna do

 

[Young Angus]

Re: I sometimes still feel like my ENGL isnt up to scratch...

Well, ill try anyway