I think I hate my Fender.

Re: I think I hate my Fender.

It's not the amp, it is the speakers. The speakers are an important part in re-shaping what comes out of your distortion.

If you are willing to make a small modification you can use a cabinet with speakers that are more suitable to form good distortion. The amp itself should be mostly fine.
 
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I played through one last night. The owner of the studio allows me to use his Deluxe Reverb RI when its available. Last night I used a Strat and my board is setup with a TS9. The TS9 interacts with this amp quite well. The cleans of the amp are great and I think the TS9 does a great job for getting me a bit of crunch. But not knowing what type of sound you are after its hard to say that the amp wont work for you or not. Its certainly NOT a metal amp, but a good blues amp for sure.

I would consider a Celection G12H30. Great speaker for this amp.
 
Re: I think I hate my Fender.

It's not the amp, it is the speakers. The speakers are an important part in re-shaping what comes out of your distortion.
If you are willing to make a small modification you can use a cabinet with speakers that are more suitable to form good distortion. The amp itself should be mostly fine.

+1

I'd put a G12H30 in there and rock the f out.

Side note - I've never had an issue getting a raw, chunky, fat tone from my Fender. Then again, I have a 68 Bassman that I run into oversized cabs (one half open half ported and one sealed) so that may be a big part of it. But still, I can get really awesome Marshall tones out of my Fender rig with the right pedal.
 
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clip the bright cap and change the speaker. g12h30 is good, cannabis rex is good too
 
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Im a fender amp geek, but ive had and gigged all kinds of amps over the years.
Anyway, what ive learned about fender amps is this: Speaker choice is crucial, as is choice of overdrive pedals if there are any shortcomings in your pedal, a fender amp will show it up immediately.

Jensen c12ks and jensen c12ns are no fun for my ears. You can get a fat warm sound with something else - a lot of folks around here (including me) swear by eminence texas heats or cannabis rexes.

What are your dirt pedals?
 
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Wow, alot of good suggestions.

The dirt pedals I ran into it were an EMMA pisdiyauwot, my MJM Foxey Fuzz, and I'm pretty sure I ran my DOD 250 into it. Out of the one I tried, the fuzz sounded "best" which was still kinda thin sounding.

As I said earlier, the volume I'm relegated to playing at may be a big part of the issue. It seems that the speaker is also a contributing factor.
 
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I'm going to go in a different direction here. I think you might have a bad preamp tube.

I think on the DRRI, you'd want to swap in a new tube in the V2 position (if you're using the Vibrato channel) and see if that makes an improvement. Sometimes a bad preamp tube might not be noticeable until the amp is cranked up loud, OR...you run a buzz box into it and stress it. Ten to fifteen bucks on a new tube is an easy experiment and it might be a cheaper, better investment than a new speaker at this point.

Usually Fenders take pedals very well, but I have noticed every now and then, there's a pedal that WON'T work worth a damn with a particular amp-- and, I seemed to have a knack for finding them. LOL. So, if you are using a bunch of boutique pedals, you might try taking your amp into a store where you could try some mainstream pedals....TS-9, Boss OD or BD, EHX, MXR, etc., just to see if you have better results.

Another thing to consider, would be that with this particular amp, there's something amiss in the ORDER of the pedals. This actually happened to me, back in the day when I had a Marshall JCM 800 and a Fender amp. The Fender amp didn't care whether the distortion was before or after the wah--but the Marshall sure did. Take a few minutes to do some switching around and see if that makes a difference.

And be sure to check out the pedal interconnects too. Make sure you're cables are good quality, and making good contact.

Finally, you might want to look into getting a clean boost pedal. I started using an old DOD FX-10 Preamp on my board years ago when I was using a solid state amp. The extra little bit of boost really warmed up the amp and made it more tube-like, which I needed since I was playing at very low volumes. I certainly don't need the extra gain since I started using Mesa amps back around 1994, but I've kept it as the first pedal on my pedalboard, to add just a slight amount of always-on boost. The right boost pedal can keep your cleans clean, fatten up your tone and make your dirt boxes work better.

It just seems to me that you have some sort of compatibility problem with the pedals you're using and your amp. If your amp sounds good straight into it; if your pedals sound good into another amp, then there's something in the chain that's causing it all to not work together. Maybe you have one too many buffers, or maybe one not enough, or one in the wrong spot. Sometimes if you have a board full of true-bypass pedals, adding a buffer can work wonders. (And sometimes buffers don't play nice with each other, either.)

I have dealt with this issue in the past, and I know it's no fun. I don't know all the electric technical mumbo-jumbo--I just know that it takes a bit of "magic dust" to make it all work.

And when it does, when you have the RIGHT combination, it's...well, MAGICAL!

Good luck, let us know what you figure out.

Bill
 
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What's your volume at? Because even the awesome pedals on my handpicked board don't start to tickle the hairs on my scrote until the volume is up around 2.5-3 on my Bassman.
 
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I popped the speakers out of my Quad Reverb and put in Celestions the thing sings now. The amp has so much balls.
 
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Do yourself a favour and instead of buying a Chinese assembly line made Celestion, for the same price buy an American hand made Weber 12F150. They make them to order to your specs. As a bonus, you can ask them to do the initial break in at the factory before they ship it out to you for no charge (soooo worth it)! I've got Weber Vintage series in my Bassman LTD, 5E3 Deluxe, 73 Champ, and my Vibrolux. They are absolutely great speakers and they are pretty much designed for Fender vintage style amps. I cannot stress enough how great these things sound.

https://taweber.powweb.com/weber/12f150.htm

That all being said, I have tried out the DRRI a few times and it's not my favourite Fender amp. I know how legendary they are and all that, but I just didn't dig it. I've since realized that I'm not a fan of the scooped mids Blackface sound. I'm a tweed guy.
 
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old deluxe reverbs are legendary. the ri is a cheap copy of a legendary amp that sorta comes closeish in some ways
 
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Crank the amp up and see how it sounds. I know you said that volume was a problem but when you get a chance crak the amp up & see if your tone improves.... It should
 
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