Ibanez or Jackson???
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Edgecrusher
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Re: Ibanez or Jackson???
There are bevels on the back that make much better than it looks... It never caused Dave Mustaine any problems and hes got a bunch of solos that use the 24th fret.
There are bevels on the back that make much better than it looks... It never caused Dave Mustaine any problems and hes got a bunch of solos that use the 24th fret.
Archer250
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Re: Ibanez or Jackson???
Mustaine usually tremolo picks or bends at the 24th. Not the best of examples.
Edgecrusher
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Ummm ok.. the point was the upper fret access far from sucks. If you cant reach up there on that V then thats a technique issue not a guitar issue
Ummm ok.. the point was the upper fret access far from sucks. If you cant reach up there on that V then thats a technique issue not a guitar issue
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Still horrible. I believe it's pretty much a design issue. But it goes with the V geometry. Nothing against Jackson per se.
Compare it to :
IMHO this ibb could smoke certain high end MIA's or MIJ's. And according to my own experience, even if MII or MIK materials are better, still MIC Ibanez's are VERY VERY good!
You mean this?
Still horrible. I believe it's pretty much a design issue. But it goes with the V geometry. Nothing against Jackson per se.
Compare it to :
IMHO this ibb could smoke certain high end MIA's or MIJ's. And according to my own experience, even if MII or MIK materials are better, still MIC Ibanez's are VERY VERY good!
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Edgecrusher
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If you cant reach the upper frets on that V its a player issue... doesnt mean its the best access there is but its far from the worst.
But then again your perferences are.... curious
If you cant reach the upper frets on that V its a player issue... doesnt mean its the best access there is but its far from the worst.
But then again your perferences are.... curious
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Little Pigbacon
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It may not be as good as the fret access on that Ibby, but I think "horrible" and "sucks" are a little strong, as far as words go. I mean, what does that leave for us to say about a different design with even less-accessible upper frets? Maybe an Alexi is worth looking at.
It may not be as good as the fret access on that Ibby, but I think "horrible" and "sucks" are a little strong, as far as words go. I mean, what does that leave for us to say about a different design with even less-accessible upper frets? Maybe an Alexi is worth looking at.
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kramersteen
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Re: Ibanez or Jackson???
I wanna get myself a jackson jdr. One of those modded up would be great.
I wanna get myself a jackson jdr. One of those modded up would be great.
DrNewcenstein
He Did the Monster Mash
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Any time someone brings up upper-fret access and shredding, I look at the poster on my wall of Rhoads with his LP Custom.
You're telling me that your hands are more puny than his? He was reaching around a 70s Les Paul neck joint, and you're whining about having to change hand position?
But then this thread was started to fan the Ibenhad vs Jackson debate - no one ever seriously asks "should I get a Strat or a V?" for the simple fact that Strat-shapes will always win because of the comfortable sitting position (though symmetrical Vs require a different technique, they actually promote better posture when seated).
Had the question been "should I get a Dinky/Soloist or an ESPee/Ibanez V-shape", the vote would go to the Jackson for the same reason, and the OP would return saying "I got the Strat-shape because it's more comfy for sitting on the couch and noodling during Walking Dead". The same will happen here.
The honest question would have been "Strat-shape vs Strat-shape" between two brands - Dinky vs RG, Soloist vs Prestige, etc.
However, I have a long-standing personal issue with Ibanez, which indirectly resulted in my first Jackson, so I will say get "a" Jackson (shape is up to you).
If you find a used MIJ neckthrough Jackson KV in playable condition for the cost of either of the two models cited by the OP, you'd be stupid not to get it, as it's sorely underpriced. That said, I do have a 2012 KVMG Pro and it's not a bad guitar at all. It's no Mustaine Pro, but it's not an early-80s Arbor, either.
Any time someone brings up upper-fret access and shredding, I look at the poster on my wall of Rhoads with his LP Custom.
You're telling me that your hands are more puny than his? He was reaching around a 70s Les Paul neck joint, and you're whining about having to change hand position?
But then this thread was started to fan the Ibenhad vs Jackson debate - no one ever seriously asks "should I get a Strat or a V?" for the simple fact that Strat-shapes will always win because of the comfortable sitting position (though symmetrical Vs require a different technique, they actually promote better posture when seated).
Had the question been "should I get a Dinky/Soloist or an ESPee/Ibanez V-shape", the vote would go to the Jackson for the same reason, and the OP would return saying "I got the Strat-shape because it's more comfy for sitting on the couch and noodling during Walking Dead". The same will happen here.
The honest question would have been "Strat-shape vs Strat-shape" between two brands - Dinky vs RG, Soloist vs Prestige, etc.
However, I have a long-standing personal issue with Ibanez, which indirectly resulted in my first Jackson, so I will say get "a" Jackson (shape is up to you).
If you find a used MIJ neckthrough Jackson KV in playable condition for the cost of either of the two models cited by the OP, you'd be stupid not to get it, as it's sorely underpriced. That said, I do have a 2012 KVMG Pro and it's not a bad guitar at all. It's no Mustaine Pro, but it's not an early-80s Arbor, either.
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Little Pigbacon
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As someone who personally prefers Jackson to Ibanez, I'd just like to say the term "Ibenhad" annoys the **** out of me.
As someone who personally prefers Jackson to Ibanez, I'd just like to say the term "Ibenhad" annoys the **** out of me.
Archer250
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Looking at some pictures, I feel inclined to say that my hand is either the same size or smaller.
Looking at some pictures, I feel inclined to say that my hand is either the same size or smaller.
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Little Pigbacon
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And, keep in mind, Randy Rhoads isn't the one playing your guitars; neither is Jimi Hendrix, Zakk Wylde, Eric Clapton, or the guy down the street. For better or worse, it's you, and the guitar has to meet your needs the way you define them.
And, keep in mind, Randy Rhoads isn't the one playing your guitars; neither is Jimi Hendrix, Zakk Wylde, Eric Clapton, or the guy down the street. For better or worse, it's you, and the guitar has to meet your needs the way you define them.
DrNewcenstein
He Did the Monster Mash
Re: Ibanez or Jackson???
That actually came from an old magazine ad back in the 80s. I think it was a Gibson ad that showed various guitars marching out of a factory (like the hammers in The Wall) with various spoof names like Ibenhad, Kromer, Blender, and some other I can't recall.
And after my personal, first-hand experience with the failure of "Ibanez" (if it makes you feel better), I've certainly earned the right to say "I've been had".
However, that brings up a completely separate point - is the official company pronunciation "Eye ba nez" or the Spanish pronunciation "ee BAH nez", since that was the name of the guy (from Spain) who started the company.
That actually came from an old magazine ad back in the 80s. I think it was a Gibson ad that showed various guitars marching out of a factory (like the hammers in The Wall) with various spoof names like Ibenhad, Kromer, Blender, and some other I can't recall.
And after my personal, first-hand experience with the failure of "Ibanez" (if it makes you feel better), I've certainly earned the right to say "I've been had".
However, that brings up a completely separate point - is the official company pronunciation "Eye ba nez" or the Spanish pronunciation "ee BAH nez", since that was the name of the guy (from Spain) who started the company.
Archer250
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DrNewcenstein
He Did the Monster Mash
Re: Ibanez or Jackson???
I hadda Google it.
From Wikipedia:
I hadda Google it.
From Wikipedia:
