Ibanez S wiring challenge

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I really don't understand all this debate about the switch. My S470 is all stock except for the new pickups, and I'm sitting here looking right at the switch I posted a picture of in the original post. It also works like the diagram says. I do understand that it looks like I would have to have some type of superswitch to do what I want, but I'm not going to fool with that right now. I'm settling for the dead middle position for the time being.
 
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Well guys I've tried a lot with so many dig but nothing is working out for me so I had to put 3 way pickup switch again...
 
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Helo i am new in the post but i have a similar question. I have a neck 59 and ssl5 rwrp and a sh4 jb in a ibanez s 770pb. My 5 way swith functions la these: position 1 only bridge pickup; position 2 all bridge pickup combinated with the middle Single; position 3 only middle single; position 4 all neck pickup combinated with the middle single; position 5 only neck pickup. Its that ok? Thanks for the answer!!
 
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Helo i am new in the post but i have a similar question. I have a neck 59 and ssl5 rwrp and a sh4 jb in a ibanez s 770pb. My 5 way swith functions la these: position 1 only bridge pickup; position 2 all bridge pickup combinated with the middle Single; position 3 only middle single; position 4 all neck pickup combinated with the middle single; position 5 only neck pickup. Its that ok? Thanks for the answer!!

Welcome to the forum.

This is fine. You may be able to change the 2 and 4 positions to being half of each humbucker + the middle single if your neck pick(59) is 4 conductor. This is however just a matter of preference, some people like it this way, some like it how you have it.
 
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Helo. Please help i need to know if its normal that a ssl-5 rwrp single coil be to noisy. I have the next comfiguration: HSH in an 5 swith guitar. And my ssl-5 rwrp make to much noise only if i am playin something the noise stops. Thanks
 
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Two Seymour Duncan Humbuckers Wiring

Hi there!!!
Please, allow me to be brief. My name is George and I would like to share with you my small adventure to change Seymour Duncan active magnets to a SD passive pair. The guitar is an S-470 which hosts 2 humbuckers and a middle single-coil pickup, but I will cancel the middle pickup because my pick always stumbles to the “slug” cylinders or the plastic surface of the pickup, since I try to adopt a standard (you know, I unsuccessfully watch videos of Petrucci, Vai, Aswani or Gambale) picking technique. Anyway, I searched for wiring scheme for the set “2 Humbucks, 5-way Import switch, 1 volume pot, 1 tone pot” but I think that the existing configurations do not actually support the 5-way Import switch, at least the way I would like to try. Furthermore, some INF wirings would use both pickups in full output power, and I thought that there might be guitarists that would want to have a pattern as follows:

Switch Position - Events
1 - Both Bridge coils are active. Neck is inactive (not short-circuited)
2 - North pole of Bridge is active. South pole is short-circuited. Neck is inactive (not short-circuited)
3 - North pole of Bridge and Neck are active. Both South poles are short-circuited.
4 - North pole of Neck is active. South pole is short-circuited. Bridge is inactive (not short-circuited)
5 - Both Neck coils are active. Bridge is inactive (not short-circuited)

Let us have a brief look at the procedure. The very first we need to do is dismantle the switch, open it and, by gently using a paper razor, symmetrically isolate some conductive surface of the middle area so that when the switch is found at positions two and four, it (= the middle area) should not be connected to the adjacent areas (surfaces of pins 1 and 3 (Many times pin 3 is noted as pin 5)). Unfortunately, while doing this job, I had no any magnifier, but by using a Resistometer I verified that things went well! See foto below.

SD1.jpg

So far so good, but do not expect any real wiring, with soldering gun ect. I am still waiting for the magnets. So, the wiring was done on a piece of paper, as seen below.


SD2.jpg

I am still waiting for the S. Duncan pickups as said, so I hope that the draft is going to work. Of course, trying different schemas by yourselves, you may obtain other wiring and different sounds. If, for instance, you want switch middle position to activate only the South Poles of both humbuckers, you need to inverse wiring.Frankly speaking, from the various existing schemas on the internet and from the perspecive of output (mVolt) and whether the two humbuckers work in paraller or in series toghether, I could not figure out what was going on. On the other hand, I had no will to dive into Fender switchers or into more complicated staff actually. I also have no idea if it is "better" to have both North Poles active rather than the South ones.
To me it sounds peculiar if both humbuckers work in series. Too much output I guess (around 500mV or even more)! But it sounds no less strange the fact that the two humbuckers might be set to work in parallel. If they do so, then I think that we must study the circuitry more meticulously, from the perspective of Electronics. I mean, no qualitative approach. When you have two batteries connected in parralel, let us say 1.5V and 1.5V, the voltometer is going to show just 1.5V. If one is of 1.5V and the other of 9V then the voltometer is going to show just 9V. This is my initial approach, and I am not sure if I am right or wrong because here we have to deal with AC voltage of similar mV output(s). There will be (short) moments where one signal will be on top and vice-versa. But this is grocer's calculations, no value at all! Needs study it !! Anyway, I had no interest to do so for the moment.
I just think that I will be rather satisfied with the wiring I just presented you. But I also want your opinion. First of all, please check the wiring to trace potential errors. Next, what do you think the sound is going to be like? Do you think that it is going to be ok?

Merry Christmas!

Thanx!!!
 
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Re: Ibanez S wiring challenge

Hi there again.

Well, the above attempt is faulty. I give you the correct wiring (of course, which pickup or sub-pickup is active or short-circuited changes here, but I think that you are going to understand it). I now upload just a photo with the draft. The pickups arrived today clean and fresh and so I was able to measure values @ kOhm after mantle.
I think that this photo is sufficient. I do not delete the above post, just in case one may want to experiment on trial-and-error. As you may see, I re-wired half the area I had "canceled" with the paper razor with some Conducting_Silver_Liquid and I then symmetrically isolated some area on the right of the switch (One day later, that is today, I realized that the isolation of the small area on the right side of the switch has been useless. Anyway, peace!!!) . Make note that both black cables (or wires anyway) go directly on Volume Potentiometer.

The switch configuration is always the same:

Switch Position - Events
1 - Both Bridge coils are active. Neck is inactive
2 - North pole of Bridge is active. South pole is short-circuited. Neck is inactive
3 - North pole of Bridge and Neck are active. Both South poles are short-circuited.
4 - North pole of Neck is active. South pole is short-circuited. Bridge is inactive
5 - Both Neck coils are active. Bridge is inactive

Correct Wiring 2.jpg

Cheers.
 
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