If you had a fender duo-sonic HS
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Blille
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Re: If you had a fender duo-sonic HS
Ha! I’m a big fan of the HS setup. 99% of the time that’s what I end up using. I currently have an HH where I have a Stag Mag in the neck and Hybrid in the bridge and pretty much use the stag mag split most of the time.
So I would likely go SSL-1 or APS-1 in neck and hybrid in bridge to have a good split. Then likely a Schaller Megaswitch E+ to do this
The duo sonic being shorter scale might change things a bit though.
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Ha! I’m a big fan of the HS setup. 99% of the time that’s what I end up using. I currently have an HH where I have a Stag Mag in the neck and Hybrid in the bridge and pretty much use the stag mag split most of the time.
So I would likely go SSL-1 or APS-1 in neck and hybrid in bridge to have a good split. Then likely a Schaller Megaswitch E+ to do this
The duo sonic being shorter scale might change things a bit though.
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Re: If you had a fender duo-sonic HS
custom 5 bridge, ssl6 neck with 500k pots. with 250k pots id run a pearly gates bridge and ssl2 neck.
if you wanted noiseless for the singles then id go custom stack + with 500k pots and classic stack + neck
the pg/ssl2 combo gives you a great single coil neck tone and a paf type bridge tone. the c5/ssl6 combo is a higher output version of that will a tighter bridge with a bigger bottom end
custom 5 bridge, ssl6 neck with 500k pots. with 250k pots id run a pearly gates bridge and ssl2 neck.
if you wanted noiseless for the singles then id go custom stack + with 500k pots and classic stack + neck
the pg/ssl2 combo gives you a great single coil neck tone and a paf type bridge tone. the c5/ssl6 combo is a higher output version of that will a tighter bridge with a bigger bottom end
gregory
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Re: If you had a fender duo-sonic HS
If going with Duncan pickups I'd consider...
59/JB Hybrid (JB slug coil nearest the neck, 59 screw coil) in the bridge. An STK-S4B.
The JB slug coil has the best split sound that I've heard of any Duncan besides the Stag Mag.
The STK-S4B can be split which will be hum cancelling when combined with the JB coil. When run in series by itself or with the full humbucker, it will be hum-cancelling. It will also balance well against the humbucker.
I would also consider running the humbucker in parallel instead of split to fill out all five positions.
I'd use a 5-way super switch with no other switches, if possible.
I'll post again later with DiMarzio recommendations, which will provide better split performance, more of a glassy vintage tone in all positions and still have good balance. I'll also offer up a hotter, more versatile set.
If going with Duncan pickups I'd consider...
59/JB Hybrid (JB slug coil nearest the neck, 59 screw coil) in the bridge. An STK-S4B.
The JB slug coil has the best split sound that I've heard of any Duncan besides the Stag Mag.
The STK-S4B can be split which will be hum cancelling when combined with the JB coil. When run in series by itself or with the full humbucker, it will be hum-cancelling. It will also balance well against the humbucker.
I would also consider running the humbucker in parallel instead of split to fill out all five positions.
I'd use a 5-way super switch with no other switches, if possible.
I'll post again later with DiMarzio recommendations, which will provide better split performance, more of a glassy vintage tone in all positions and still have good balance. I'll also offer up a hotter, more versatile set.
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Blille
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Re: If you had a fender duo-sonic HS
Good call, I just looked it up. I vastly prefer blades to push/pulls.
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Good call, I just looked it up. I vastly prefer blades to push/pulls.
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gregory
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Re: If you had a fender duo-sonic HS
There's a 6-way Free-Way, but push-pulls will work too.
If the OP wants just three sounds with no additional switching I might change my pickup recommendations, but if left up to me (per the original post) I'd elect for the option to split both the humbucker and the stack.
I'd consider moving the jack location to where it is on the current JEMs, and increasing the size of the control cavity. I would then probably not make use of the route for the stock switch.
There's a 6-way Free-Way, but push-pulls will work too.
If the OP wants just three sounds with no additional switching I might change my pickup recommendations, but if left up to me (per the original post) I'd elect for the option to split both the humbucker and the stack.
I'd consider moving the jack location to where it is on the current JEMs, and increasing the size of the control cavity. I would then probably not make use of the route for the stock switch.
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Re: If you had a fender duo-sonic HS
Thanks for all the suggestions so far!
I would prefer to just keep it simple and keep the routing and the push pull etc for now
You guys only answered half of the question though
You told me what you would do, but not why you choose that combination.
What would be the effect of the suggestion you made above?
I'm fairly new to pick-ups, always just used stock pickups in any guitar I owned so ..
Thanks for all the suggestions so far!
I would prefer to just keep it simple and keep the routing and the push pull etc for now
You guys only answered half of the question though
You told me what you would do, but not why you choose that combination.
What would be the effect of the suggestion you made above?
I'm fairly new to pick-ups, always just used stock pickups in any guitar I owned so ..
gregory
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Re: If you had a fender duo-sonic HS
High Output
For high output I'd do an HS take on the classic pairing of the Tone Zone with an Air Norton S; Series/parallel switching* for each pickup.
Medium Output
AT-1 in the bridge and one of the following in the neck:
Vintage Output
For vintage output I'd pick the Bluesbucker with the screws toward the neck. In the neck would be an Area 67. Switching would be series/parallel (bridge only), each either wired as split or wired in series when combined, neck in series.
I prefer not to have additional switching options than those that I like, for instance I don't want to run the Area 67 in split mode when it is by itself. In order to do this I choose a more advanced switch. For a 3-way toggle it would be the DiMarzio EP1111 which is QPDT. I also mentioned the 6-Way Free-Way.
(*) Example of the Tone Zone in parallel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgMTT8gIMuw
So, yeah, if it were mine I'd probably look at some HS combinations I don't already have with pickups I like.
High Output
For high output I'd do an HS take on the classic pairing of the Tone Zone with an Air Norton S; Series/parallel switching* for each pickup.
Medium Output
AT-1 in the bridge and one of the following in the neck:
- Cruiser Bridge with a treble bleed (Andy Timmons setup but HS; he rarely uses his middle pickup anyway)
- Injector Neck with a treble bleed
- Cruiser Neck with a treble bleed
- Area 67 with an option to split the neck and bridge when combined
Vintage Output
For vintage output I'd pick the Bluesbucker with the screws toward the neck. In the neck would be an Area 67. Switching would be series/parallel (bridge only), each either wired as split or wired in series when combined, neck in series.
I prefer not to have additional switching options than those that I like, for instance I don't want to run the Area 67 in split mode when it is by itself. In order to do this I choose a more advanced switch. For a 3-way toggle it would be the DiMarzio EP1111 which is QPDT. I also mentioned the 6-Way Free-Way.
(*) Example of the Tone Zone in parallel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgMTT8gIMuw
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gregory
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Re: If you had a fender duo-sonic HS
My DiMarzio Vintage selection was more about getting more of a P90/Single thing or Single/Single thing than versatility.
I didn't provide a vintage output combination for Duncans. You'll be getting plenty of other recommendations for that. Since no one has offered my favorites I'll go ahead and do it:
Bridge: Screamin' Demon or Jazz
Neck: STK-S4N or STK-S4M (I wouldn't split anything so it makes no difference)
To be perfectly honest, I prefer the DiMarzio/Kinman approach to single coils because it doesn't rob as much glass from the top end.
There is no reason why you can't mix and match brands.
I chose my pickups for versatility which also balance tonally so you don't necessarily need to change amp/effects setting when changing pickups. In most cases pickups were chosen for a balance in output with the only real exception being the AT-1 with the Cruiser.
My DiMarzio Vintage selection was more about getting more of a P90/Single thing or Single/Single thing than versatility.
I didn't provide a vintage output combination for Duncans. You'll be getting plenty of other recommendations for that. Since no one has offered my favorites I'll go ahead and do it:
Bridge: Screamin' Demon or Jazz
Neck: STK-S4N or STK-S4M (I wouldn't split anything so it makes no difference)
To be perfectly honest, I prefer the DiMarzio/Kinman approach to single coils because it doesn't rob as much glass from the top end.
There is no reason why you can't mix and match brands.
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dxlxntxxlxr
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Re: If you had a fender duo-sonic HS
+1 on that. Tone zone is awesome. The air norton is a pretty unique pickup. Its fairly bright, articulate, and bell-like (like a single coil), but it has the more controlled low end, higher output, and noiselessness of a humbucker. It wasn't exactly my thing, but its one of the most popular dmz necks out there
+1 on that. Tone zone is awesome. The air norton is a pretty unique pickup. Its fairly bright, articulate, and bell-like (like a single coil), but it has the more controlled low end, higher output, and noiselessness of a humbucker. It wasn't exactly my thing, but its one of the most popular dmz necks out there
gregory
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Re: If you had a fender duo-sonic HS
The Air Norton S in parallel kills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfom_f5ha2M
The Tone Zone T isn't half-bad either.
The Air Norton S in parallel kills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfom_f5ha2M
The Tone Zone T isn't half-bad either.
FWIW, I prefer the LiquiFire, but we're talking about a single-sized HB, so that's gotta be the Air Norton S.
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dxlxntxxlxr
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Re: If you had a fender duo-sonic HS
Agreed
The Air Norton S in parallel kills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfom_f5ha2M
The Tone Zone T isn't half-bad either.
FWIW, I prefer the LiquiFire, but we're talking about a single-sized HB, so that's gotta be the Air Norton S.
Agreed
gregory
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Re: If you had a fender duo-sonic HS
Some pretty great tone was done with a particular JB/SDS-1 with an unorthodox orientation on the neck and middle pickups played through an SD-1 into a 1959. The middle pickup was useful with the bridge, but otherwise not terribly important.
Some pretty great tone was done with a particular JB/SDS-1 with an unorthodox orientation on the neck and middle pickups played through an SD-1 into a 1959. The middle pickup was useful with the bridge, but otherwise not terribly important.
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CaptainWhizz
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Re: If you had a fender duo-sonic HS
I would probably put some GFS gold foils in it to get some different sounds out of it compared to my other guitars.
I would probably put some GFS gold foils in it to get some different sounds out of it compared to my other guitars.
