i'm finally gonna start building up a pedalboard!

Hoss

Hoss

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but i have some questions...of course right?!?!

what are your thoughts on "powerbricks" vs. "onboard power" vs. a trick i've heard with a Boss Tuner and "daisy chaining"???????

i'm not going to have too many pedals...here's what i'll have
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choralflange.jpg

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and some kind of tuner depending on how i power the board and maybe someday a fuzz or something else?

do you have any recomendations on boards that aren't too expensive and a cable kit?

i plan on buying the Choralflange and the board first and add the rest when i can.

here's a couple boards i'm looking at...of course i'd like to buy used if i can on everything!

http://www.rockonpedalboards.com/BI...=Staggered.htm&CLIENT=RockOn&ACCOUNT=!ACCOUNT!
http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/2/8/0/375280.jpg
 
Re: i'm finally gonna start building up a pedalboard!

I really like the Choral Flange. It will probably be my next pedal addition.
 
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what kind of board do you have?
 
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daisy-chaining only works if all the devices work on the same voltage, voltage type, and polarity ... there are pedals that work on ( volts and others that work on 18 volts ... thre are many pedals taht work on DC votage, but some that work on AC ... some have a hot 'tip' polarity, but not all (i think that choral flange has a negative tip)

iirc, the beloved sfx-03 has a somewhat uncommon (compared to 9V DC powered stomp boxes) power requirement

finish the research before you finalize the plan

good luck
have fun
 
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tone4days said:
daisy-chaining only works if all the devices work on the same voltage, voltage type, and polarity ... there are pedals that work on ( volts and others that work on 18 volts ... thre are many pedals taht work on DC votage, but some that work on AC ... some have a hot 'tip' polarity, but not all (i think that choral flange has a negative tip)

iirc, the beloved sfx-03 has a somewhat uncommon (compared to 9V DC powered stomp boxes) power requirement

finish the research before you finalize the plan

good luck
have fun
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oh jeez! :smack: why does it have to be that complicated...lol!!!
 
Re: i'm finally gonna start building up a pedalboard!

I'm asking myself the same question every time I thinking of what my pedalboard would look like :laugh2:
 
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If they are all 9V DC pedals, which I think everything you have listed is, just get a Visual Sound One Spot and daisy chain cable. They are switching power supplies so there is no 60Hz hum. There is some very high frequency noise but you shouldn't be able to hear that unless you use huge amounts of gain on your amp. I use one for my pedal board, I also built another LR filter that it goes through before it hits the pedals and it works great, and it doesn't take up more space on my board like a brick would. Are the bricks better? Yeah, probably, they are regulated DC so there is no noise, but I can't justify the extra cost. Just stay away from the cheapo adapters and you should be okay.
 
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devastone said:
If they are all 9V DC pedals, which I think everything you have listed is, just get a Visual Sound One Spot and daisy chain cable. They are switching power supplies so there is no 60Hz hum. There is some very high frequency noise but you shouldn't be able to hear that unless you use huge amounts of gain on your amp. I use one for my pedal board, I also built another LR filter that it goes through before it hits the pedals and it works great, and it doesn't take up more space on my board like a brick would. Are the bricks better? Yeah, probably, they are regulated DC so there is no noise, but I can't justify the extra cost. Just stay away from the cheapo adapters and you should be okay.
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took a look at the 1 Spot combo pack...$39.95 is this too good to be true...anyone else have any experience with them?
 
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The line 6 will need dedicated power or there may be noise problems...do a search at the gear page. As far as the Brick, I've used one for a couple of years with no ill effects. If I were to buy one now, I would get the Voodoo labs pedal power 2.
 
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Hey Hoss, a friend of mine had an echo park and after using it myself, I'd say go for something else. That thing sucked tone and was very noisy. Why not a Boss DD6 or a rocktron short timer?
 
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SeraphimTN said:
Hey Hoss, a friend of mine had an echo park and after using it myself, I'd say go for something else. That thing sucked tone and was very noisy. Why not a Boss DD6 or a rocktron short timer?
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Did he use it with a dedicated power source?
 
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The AC-Tone is buffered, so it will take some really lousy pedal to ruin your bypass
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i had a feeling it definitely wouldn't be a "weak link" in the chain...lol!!!

in fact it has inspired me to do this and not settle for anything less than great pedals!!!

used prices i've found so far:
Pedaltrain2sc = $100
Choralflange = $165
Budda Wah = $100
1SPot = $30
AC-Tone Special = PRICELESS!
 
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Re: i'm finally gonna start building up a pedalboard!

A power system that I am very happy with is the Godlyke It can accomodate a wide variety of power needs and is very quiet - there is no 60 cycle hum because it doesn't user a transformer.

As for pedal board - I've built a couple out of 1/2" plywood with varying degrees of satisfaction. The biggest problem I had was transporting my pedals safely to gigs. I am now using one of these from Rondo. They are the best bang-for-buck I have seen anywhere and I am completely satisfied with mine. I got mine last spring and it's been to several gigs. Complaints: The velcro they give you is a joke - I got industrial strength velcro at Lowes that works just fine. On one particularly hot day the material on the bottom of the case that the pedals attach to came away from the case (I think the heat soften the glue). I pushed it back into place and it's working fine. Someday I'm going in there and reglue it.

I also wanted the second row to be elevated. I just got a piece of 1/2" plywood - painted it black - put velcro on both sides and laid into the case. Now the back row is just high enough that I don't affect the bottom row when I hit them.

My first pedal in the chain is my tuner which I put in the lower right corner. It sat a little low and I had a hard time plugging the cable into the input and clearing the case flange. So I put a piece of plywood under that as well.

I have a wah and volume pedal in mine and they stay in place with no trouble.

I am very happy with this set up and really can't say enough good things about it.
 
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Hoss said:
from what i've read...the 1 spot can handle one Line 6 pedal and i'm not completely sold on the echo park yet anyways...but i've heard good things?

http://www.visualsound.net/1spotcombo.htm
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I've been using a 1-spot since I put my pedal board together about a year ago and have never looked back. No problems with noise, heat, or whatever. I'm daisy-chaining about 10 pedals together (albeit mostly boss pedals)
 
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Hoss said:
but i have some questions...of course right?!?!
what are your thoughts on "powerbricks" vs. "onboard power" vs. a trick i've heard with a Boss Tuner and "daisy chaining"??????? i'm not going to have too many pedals...here's what i'll have and some kind of tuner depending on how i power the board and maybe someday a fuzz or something else? do you have any recomendations on boards that aren't too expensive and a cable kit? i plan on buying the Choralflange and the board first and add the rest when i can. here's a couple boards i'm looking at...of course i'd like to buy used if i can on everything!
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I would recommend using a power source that is meant for powering them all. However, yes, you can get away with building a power strip / power conditioner into the pedal board.

I would recommend that all pedals be grounded to each other, to a common point, etc. It should help reduce or eliminate some of the potential problems with having several gain stages and variables.

Still, I prefer multieffects because they are so much less prone to problems with multiple gains and potential powering / shielding / grounding issues. That and sometimes they're cheaper overall. But it's still a toss-up.

For example, if you break your multieffects while you're on "tour", you can always send someone to go buy the same identical thing from a local music store, if the town is big enough. You can always own two of them.

The problem with a pedal board could end up being one pedal taking a krap. But finding which one isn't always easy. Then you have to hope someone locally has the pedal, so it depends on how rare each pedal in the chain is.

I'm not trying to discourage you, I'm just giving my 2 cents in conjunction with my recommendation :D
 
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