i'm finally gonna start building up a pedalboard!

[bungalowbill]

Re: i'm finally gonna start building up a pedalboard!

I would recommend using a power source that is meant for powering them all. However, yes, you can get away with building a power strip / power conditioner into the pedal board.

I would recommend that all pedals be grounded to each other, to a common point, etc. It should help reduce or eliminate some of the potential problems with having several gain stages and variables.

Still, I prefer multieffects because they are so much less prone to problems with multiple gains and potential powering / shielding / grounding issues. That and sometimes they're cheaper overall. But it's still a toss-up.

For example, if you break your multieffects while you're on "tour", you can always send someone to go buy the same identical thing from a local music store, if the town is big enough. You can always own two of them.

The problem with a pedal board could end up being one pedal taking a krap. But finding which one isn't always easy. Then you have to hope someone locally has the pedal, so it depends on how rare each pedal in the chain is.

I'm not trying to discourage you, I'm just giving my 2 cents in conjunction with my recommendation

I agree with having a power supply that would adequately power all of the effects you have and share a common ground.

I have to disagree with you as far as multi-effects units are concerned....if a pedal takes a crap on you, you lose one effect and can probably still cover the gig. If a multieffects unit goes down, you lose ALL your effects and if anything takes a crap on you, more often then not, it will be in the middle of a gig.

One more thing to consider...stomp boxes in general, hold up longer than processors and also hold their value longer......I like multi effects for rehearsal and for recording, but if you gig stompboxes have their place.

Sorry about the hijack, Hoss.

 

[devastone]

Re: i'm finally gonna start building up a pedalboard!

A power system that I am very happy with is the Godlyke It can accomodate a wide variety of power needs and is very quiet - there is no 60 cycle hum because it doesn't user a transformer.

The Godlyke is the same as the 1 Spot, in fact, they ripped off the 1 Spot design from Visual Sound and charge more for it.

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: i'm finally gonna start building up a pedalboard!

There is little to rip off actually, it is a simple not very well filtered switchmode powersupply....common in office products, printers, powersupply for laptops, LCD monitors etc etc.

 

[RW James]

Re: i'm finally gonna start building up a pedalboard!

The Godlyke is the same as the 1 Spot, in fact, they ripped off the 1 Spot design from Visual Sound and charge more for it.

I did not know that... When I was looking for a power supply, I looked at the 1 Spot put I don't recall them saying anything about being transformerless. I was attracted to Godlyke for that reason - it made sense to me. I also like their assortment of plugs that are completely interchangable.

 

[Bludave]

Re: i'm finally gonna start building up a pedalboard!

I built both of my boards. I use one at home and one I use and keep at my rehearsal space. At home I use 2 amps. A Marshall 50W combo and a Fender Super Reverb. I have a Morley a/B/Y box that allows me to switch to eithor amp or both. The Marshall has an effects loop, so I need modulating effects to run thru the loop. I really only use Chorus and delay. In front of the Marshall I have a Marshall Blusebreaker that I run into it. The Fender has a Ce2, a DD3 and a TS9. Both come together at the A/B box and I have my Wah and tuner in front of the guitar so I can use with either amp. The Box that I have running into the Marshall loop is AC powered so it has its own power supply, the Way also has its own power supply Every thing else is powered with the one spot. I bough it with all the necessary cables from Musiciansfriend for 25.$ My other board is basically athe same as what goes into my Fender. A CH1 Chorus, a DD3 and a TS9 with Wah and tuner. All powered with the visual sound one spot No problems at all. About a year ago I started getting some residual noise, like a 60 cycle hum. I called Visual sound and they replace d the one spot no problem!

http://visualsound.net/1spot.htm

 

[devastone]

Re: i'm finally gonna start building up a pedalboard!

There is little to rip off actually, it is a simple not very well filtered switchmode powersupply....common in office products, printers, powersupply for laptops, LCD monitors etc etc.

Correct, it doesn't get rid of the noise, it moves it into high frequencies that we can't hear, if you put it on a scope it's probably noisier than the Boss adapters. The novel part of it is that it was applying for use with effects pedals. Visual Sound did it first and the Godlyke boys saw it at a show and did thier own version. So, "rip-off" may be a little strong, but it was a me-too thing.

I did not know that... When I was looking for a power supply, I looked at the 1 Spot put I don't recall them saying anything about being transformerless. I was attracted to Godlyke for that reason - it made sense to me. I also like their assortment of plugs that are completely interchangable.

They are pretty much the same thing, the VS is cheaper, or at least was, haven't bought one in a while.

 

[3'scompany]

Re: i'm finally gonna start building up a pedalboard!

Get a pedal snake and a 1 spot. http://www.pedalsnake.com/page.aspx?pid=1#features

The snake has a bunch midi connectors and different midi ends that come with it to plug into all your applications.

I ran a 1 spot off my power conditioner to the Pedal Snake G2 and then that out to a series of "daisy chain-like" connectors (that came with the pedal snake) and powered two A/B selectors, and three different pedals all made by different manufactures that had different polarities. It was an absolute nightmare trying to figure this setup out and get it to work and this was the only solution I had shown to me that worked like I wanted it to. It was even harder for me running two amps simultaneously but it works. The added benefit is that you have 4 other midi ends (besides the one you'd use for power) that you can use to eliminate excess cables. You can run a ton of stuff through that snake with the various midi cable ends they provide. Hope this helps.

****Also make sure to look at their "Before Ordering" section on the upper left hand corner as there is some good help there.****

 

[Hoss]

Re: i'm finally gonna start building up a pedalboard!

thanks for all the advice fellas...i really appreciate it and i will take it all into consideration!

i think i will try to snag a Choralflange and a 1Spot and then take it from there....since i only have two pedals at the moment i can wait a few to try to find a really good deal on a board. it the one spot doesn't work out that good, i'll by something else...there not that expensive so it's win-win if ya ask me!

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: i'm finally gonna start building up a pedalboard!

Hoss: I would save and get a VooDoo Labs Pedal Power...yes it is costly but it is the last pedal power supply you will every buy for DC powered pedals. It won't power AC pedals (except for having one plug in the back where you cold plug in the wall wart for an AC powered box.

As for the pedals I know you didn't ask but Im gonna tell you that I tried the Echo Park and I thought it was a so/so unit at best...if you have to go Line 6 go for the full on DL-4, if you just want a decent delay the Boss DD-3/5/6 can't be beat for lost cost delays.

Also, unless you're just completely sold on it I would steer you away from the Coralflange...IMO the Coralflange is one of the weak Fulltone pedals...it just was unimpressive to me. I think their are much better chorus/flanger units out. It's just a lot of money for a not so great pedal but again, this is just IMO and if you really want it then go for it!