Implications of using a warmoth 13 degree tilt back neck with a trem
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JacksonMIA
Lemur-buckerologist
Re: Implications of using a warmoth 13 degree tilt back neck with a trem
I can't think of any, but I know there's some guys on here that are a whole lot more learned in such matters.
I can't think of any, but I know there's some guys on here that are a whole lot more learned in such matters.
Fresh_Start
New member
Re: Implications of using a warmoth 13 degree tilt back neck with a trem
The tiltback headstock will put more downward pressure on the nut slots... can't figure out whether that's good or bad. My first thought is "bad" because it might make it harder for the string to return to tune, but JohnJohn, Zerb, or KMC oughta' know better than I do.
I can tell you that a Gotoh-Wilkinson tremelo bridge with a GraphTech Trem Nut and staggered height locking Sperzel tuners works fine with a standard strat-style headstock.
Chip
The tiltback headstock will put more downward pressure on the nut slots... can't figure out whether that's good or bad. My first thought is "bad" because it might make it harder for the string to return to tune, but JohnJohn, Zerb, or KMC oughta' know better than I do.
I can tell you that a Gotoh-Wilkinson tremelo bridge with a GraphTech Trem Nut and staggered height locking Sperzel tuners works fine with a standard strat-style headstock.
Chip
Re: Implications of using a warmoth 13 degree tilt back neck with a trem
The amount of pressure put on the nut by the strings will be alot more uniform with a tilt back headstock then not. If ur not using a locking nut but have a tremolo it should be more stable when it comes to tuning.
The amount of pressure put on the nut by the strings will be alot more uniform with a tilt back headstock then not. If ur not using a locking nut but have a tremolo it should be more stable when it comes to tuning.
Re: Implications of using a warmoth 13 degree tilt back neck with a trem
Oddly i have a Godin with a tilt back headstock and a nonlocking trem and it stays in tune pretty good..... And i have some Fender strats that don't stay in tune at all. I find that really strange. The Godin must just be set up right.
I would love to be able to dive with the bar like Eddie did on the first 2 VH tours and still stay somewhat in tune. I have done ton's of experiments getting a standard trem to stay in tune. I had no luck with my Fenders but my Warmoth strat i did. My Warmoth has an Fender American Standard strat Trem and locking tuners, the same set up on my Fender Strat. I lub the nut, don't use any string trees and tune down a half step. With light strings and tuned down to E- and with the strings off the nut as much as you can i can stay in tune somewhat. I tried the same with different tuners other then locking and wrapping the strings higher up the post to get the pressure off helps.
the end of the story.....The tilt back headstock may add too much pressure on the nut to stay in tune.... But i still can't explain my Godin.
WhoFan
Oddly i have a Godin with a tilt back headstock and a nonlocking trem and it stays in tune pretty good..... And i have some Fender strats that don't stay in tune at all. I find that really strange. The Godin must just be set up right.
I would love to be able to dive with the bar like Eddie did on the first 2 VH tours and still stay somewhat in tune. I have done ton's of experiments getting a standard trem to stay in tune. I had no luck with my Fenders but my Warmoth strat i did. My Warmoth has an Fender American Standard strat Trem and locking tuners, the same set up on my Fender Strat. I lub the nut, don't use any string trees and tune down a half step. With light strings and tuned down to E- and with the strings off the nut as much as you can i can stay in tune somewhat. I tried the same with different tuners other then locking and wrapping the strings higher up the post to get the pressure off helps.
the end of the story.....The tilt back headstock may add too much pressure on the nut to stay in tune.... But i still can't explain my Godin.
WhoFan
TwilightOdyssey
Darkness on the edge of Tone
Re: Implications of using a warmoth 13 degree tilt back neck with a trem
Tilt back doesn't adversely affect the guitar and looks badass!!
Tilt back doesn't adversely affect the guitar and looks badass!!
Zerberus
Baron Von Shred
Re: Implications of using a warmoth 13 degree tilt back neck with a trem
A degree of tilt, or rather angle over the saddle) is NECESSARY, the only reason Fenders use string trees ifs because they wouldn´t achieve a great enough angle for good tone and sustain without them.
Carvin, for example, tilts their heads 11°, 11° is widely regarded as the "perfect" angle for a trem to have the strings breaking over the nut...As does Jackson on Guitars such as the AT-1 which have wilkinsons...
IMO, not an issue...going more toward 17° I´d start to worry, but the 13 are just fine, a good nut and decent (locking) tuners are 100x more important
A degree of tilt, or rather angle over the saddle) is NECESSARY, the only reason Fenders use string trees ifs because they wouldn´t achieve a great enough angle for good tone and sustain without them.
Carvin, for example, tilts their heads 11°, 11° is widely regarded as the "perfect" angle for a trem to have the strings breaking over the nut...As does Jackson on Guitars such as the AT-1 which have wilkinsons...
IMO, not an issue...going more toward 17° I´d start to worry, but the 13 are just fine, a good nut and decent (locking) tuners are 100x more important
rinse_master
Member
Re: Implications of using a warmoth 13 degree tilt back neck with a trem
Yeah, you can...
http://www.warmoth.com/guitar/necks/necks.cfm?fuseaction=sideadjust
FretFire said:
Yeah, you can...
http://www.warmoth.com/guitar/necks/necks.cfm?fuseaction=sideadjust
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TwilightOdyssey
Darkness on the edge of Tone
Re: Implications of using a warmoth 13 degree tilt back neck with a trem
No ... and that should be pretty hot!!Xeromus said:
MikeS
Bengalsologist
Re: Implications of using a warmoth 13 degree tilt back neck with a trem
None - that is exactly the setup I installed on my ibanez. No problems at all (I'm not exactly sure of the headstock angle Ibanez uses, but I can't imagine that it is too far from 13 degrees).
Xeromus said:
None - that is exactly the setup I installed on my ibanez. No problems at all (I'm not exactly sure of the headstock angle Ibanez uses, but I can't imagine that it is too far from 13 degrees).
rspst14
Tone Cat
Re: Implications of using a warmoth 13 degree tilt back neck with a trem
The side adjust necks still adjust primarily at the heel. You adjust the rod so that the neck is straight with no string tension. Then after you string it up, you can use the side adjuster to fine tune the truss rod.
Ryan
The side adjust necks still adjust primarily at the heel. You adjust the rod so that the neck is straight with no string tension. Then after you string it up, you can use the side adjuster to fine tune the truss rod.
Ryan
FretFire
SingedFingerologist
Re: Implications of using a warmoth 13 degree tilt back neck with a trem
Haha, yes I've understood that all along :laugh2:, I was just curious if you could get the side-adjust on the pro construction necks or not. Pretty much an unrelated topic that came to mind upon reading "warmoth neck" and "truss rod" on the same page. My apologies for any confusion.
Xeromus said:
Haha, yes I've understood that all along :laugh2:, I was just curious if you could get the side-adjust on the pro construction necks or not. Pretty much an unrelated topic that came to mind upon reading "warmoth neck" and "truss rod" on the same page. My apologies for any confusion.
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