In Praise Of Squier....

dominus

King Midas to Cheap Guitars
Seriously, I've found myself picking up more and more of them. They can be had cheaply, and as long as you get a solid body (and not plywood) they make killer guitars.

Necks:

With a used one, you can almost be assured that the frets aren't going to be worn out. 99% of Squiers are pre-owned by kids that may put about 10 hours tops on them. The headstock is a recognizable classic shape, and with a few minutes of light sanding, you can put your own logo on or make it blank. Just spray lacquer on when you're done. Replace the tuners too, but that's a given on almost ANY guitar. Complete necks can be had on E-Bay for about $50 less than a bare MIM neck (which almost surely has more fret wear), and you can always sell the tuners and get some money back. ;) Also, MIM necks are just about always fitted for modern style tuners, a lot of Squier necks are fitted for vintage ones, if you're so inclined.

Bodies:

Sure, the electronics suck, but it only takes a few minutes to pop off the old pickguard and pop on a new one. The solid bodies are typically basswood or agathis (although I've found a few alder ones), so it's easy enough to decide what pickups would work best.

The body itself makes a good base for a refinishing project, and you're not too worried about screwing it up, as you didn't pay a whole lot for it. Yeah, Squier might not have as many colors available as Fender, but within a week (if you're impatient like me) you can have a new look for about $20.

The bridge itself isn't bad. I'd recommend upgrading the block, but the saddles are fine, as I prefer the modern-style ones anyway. I've alternated between painting the bridge plate and saddles (after completely disassembling it) or just replacing it with a cheap black one. GFS has upgraded bridges with vintage saddles for $40 if you want to replace the entire unit. Just be sure to get the MIM spacing one.

I've seen complete bodies on E-Bay for $50 less than a bare MIM body, and you can always sell the electronics and original bridge.
 
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Funny seeing this post here today. A friend and I just left our favorite music store with a $99 dollar used Squier. The headstock had been painted flat black, the tuners had been upgraded. The body had been refinished to show the wood grain and stained and polished to a mild orange color.... looked beautiful. The pickups had been upgraded and sounded great. We did not know what type, but side by side with a Deluxe American Strat (priced over a grand) we could not hear the difference. The bridge had all of the saddles replaced/upgraded. (I need to do research on these, I liked them a lot due to the way the string notch was routed/finished and curved for a smooth string transition into the body) The bridge had been locked down with two additional springs and the spring tension had been screwed all the way in so the Trem was hard to use, to say the least, but my friend does not use it anyway so it was perfect for him. The mods alone had to cost over a couple of hundred. The store got it on a trade-in and just priced it like a used squire. It plays extremely well and he loves the tone. What more could you ask for and at $99 bucks..... we stole it.
 
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Yes! I love my squier :D, on another note, It's the MIM trems you need if your gonna replace the stock trem?
 
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Yes! I love my squier :D, on another note, It's the MIM trems you need if your gonna replace the stock trem?

Yup, Squier uses the same spacing as the MIMs, a USA Strat is it's own beast. (I've found that MIM spacing lines up BETTER than USA spacing for F-Spaced/TB Spaced humbuckers.)

If you replace just the block, it might use a different block, some Squiers have a different trem arm placement than MIMs.
 
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I love 'em! Both of these are Squiers, they have Fender decals out of necessity (the original Squier decals were torn away) but I'm proud to own them. Great sounding, and great playing guitars. :)

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I have a stock 99' Squier I got from my uncle and it sounded better and played better than the used 97' American Strat in the shop down the road.
 
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I've tried very hard modding a Std Squier Strat for over two years, but that body made of agathis had a plastic-y sound that I just couldn't live with and just wouldn't go away no matter the mod I've tried.

I sold it and got a sounding gem: a PRS SE EG. It sounds so good that I've just bought some custom strat p'ups our own Zhangliqun wound for me just to make it purr-fect!
 
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I've tried very hard modding a Std Squier Strat for over two years, but that body made of agathis had a plastic-y sound that I just couldn't live with and just wouldn't go away no matter the mod I've tried.



There was me thinking this was a "In PRAISE of Squier" thread too.
Guess not. Just the usual bashing.
 
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I've tried very hard modding a Std Squier Strat for over two years, but that body made of agathis had a plastic-y sound that I just couldn't live with and just wouldn't go away no matter the mod I've tried.

I sold it and got a sounding gem: a PRS SE EG. It sounds so good that I've just bought some custom strat p'ups our own Zhangliqun wound for me just to make it purr-fect!

There's bad sounding guitars out there, I'm guessing that was one of them. I've got a Standard Squier made out of Agathis with a Duncan Custom in it and it sounds awesome.

I had another one that just sounded horrible with a pickup that should have sounded good in any type of wood.. pulled it out and put an EMG 81 in it, it saved the guitar. (One of my better paint jobs, I really wanted to like the guitar. :D )
 
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Oooh, er. Handbags at dawn. :chairfall
 
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There's bad sounding guitars out there, I'm guessing that was one of them.

It certainly was the case.

I've got a Standard Squier made out of Agathis with a Duncan Custom in it and it sounds awesome.)

In my case, it sounded alright gain... but I've used it almost exclusively for cleans... it just didn't sound "right".

I had another one that just sounded horrible with a pickup that should have sounded good in any type of wood.. pulled it out and put an EMG 81 in it, it saved the guitar. (One of my better paint jobs, I really wanted to like the guitar. :D )

I know what you mean; as I've stated before, I've fought with it for two whole years and spent maybe three hundred in mods to no avail. I too wanted to like the guitar... too much! :smack:

Anyway, I actualy have a GOOD Squier story to tell: a friend of mind got this Jagmaster that he couldn't get along with... he's a blues player and those HB103s just didn't work for him.

I've tried a GFS Mean 90s set and it just sounded AWESOME! Of course, a pro setup and intonation didn't hurt either... it's been his #1 blues jam guitar for over two years now.

To my haggis eater friend: there you have it! :nana:
 
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It certainly was the case.



In my case, it sounded alright gain... but I've used it almost exclusively for cleans... it just didn't sound "right".

Clean? What's that? I even tune with the gain turned all the way up. :D

I know what you mean; as I've stated before, I've fought with it for two whole years and spent maybe three hundred in mods to no avail. I too wanted to like the guitar... too much! :smack:

Yeah, at that point it'd be E-Bay'd off as parts. Let someone else try to find the magic combination.

Anyway, I actualy have a GOOD Squier story to tell: a friend of mind got this Jagmaster that he couldn't get along with... he's a blues player and those HB103s just didn't work for him.

I've tried a GFS Mean 90s set and it just sounded AWESOME! Of course, a pro setup and intonation didn't hurt either... it's been his #1 blues jam guitar for over two years now.

The GFS Mean 90s are killer. I've got one in another partscaster, and it can keep up with the heavy sounds I need.
 
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I wanna say my basswood strat sounds much more "normal" than any agathis squier I've played. I've owned 3 agathis squiers and played a few more.
Agathis just seems warmer to me than basswood, like it's trying to be mahogany but it's failing. Baswood to me just feels like alder but slightly more "boxy" sounding. Not a lot more, just enough to notice. Actually it seems to give a nice dose of attitude to a strat, and with an a2 pickup you get something really meaty but still very strat-y.
 
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I have a basswood Squier Stratocaster. It is twenty seven years old. Two of the A2 pickups in it are twenty five years old. Yes, it sounds more "boxy" than some Alder and Ash-bodied Strats that I have known. Maybe darker and less springy. I turn to this guitar for Eb tuning Hendrix duties.
 
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How many times, I've never eaten f**king haggis!!! :lol:

Well, I have, and they aren't bad at all!

In my 28+ years of travelling musician, my policy has always been to eat the most typical local dish whenever I go to a new town and/or country.

I've even ate crickets when I was in India and they weren't half bad either, and no, I'm not joking.
 
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I've even ate crickets when I was in India and they weren't half bad either, and no, I'm not joking.

Cricket?! :smack: I think I already addressed that today. It's not even a sport, it's worse than baseball! :cussing:
 
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