In praise of the Broadcaster/ Vintage Rhythm tele set

Curly

Moe's Bluesman
Sometimes we overlook the simple things.

I put together an ash strat a while back. It was more or less vintage style, and I used a Broadcaster/ Vintage Rhythm combo. I found these a bit bright, and replaced them with a set of Antiquities - a great set, by the way.

Meanwhile, I had a regular alder body/ rosewood neck US tele. I thought it sounded fine stock, but I thought it could be even better with some SDs. I went with a JD bridge and a Hot neck for a little more beef.

This set sounded great with a little OD for playing slide, but I found the clean tone of the neck pickup a little dark when paired with the JD.

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Some of Donzo's posts made me reconsider my Broadcaster. I dug mine out and put a meter on it - 8.26K!!!! "Darn, I gotta try this again!"

So yesterday, I put the Broadcaster/ Vintage Rhythm set in my US tele.
What a great set!

I still think the Broadcaster is bright, but what I've learned in the meantime is that is the nature of teles!
Also, I usually play strats, and you simply have to tweak your amp settings when switching to a tele. I've found that, depending on the amp, I have to increase my amp volume and add some treble in order to get enough oomph and brightness on the (usually) weak tele neck pickup, then just use your tone knob when you switch positions, rolling off highs on the bridge to suit.

Once I did this, I got a great tone in all three positions. The Vintage Rhythm sounded warm and smooth, and got a good Blues tone, and a good Jazz tone with a little of the highs rolled off. The Broadcaster had punch and clarity, a great sounding bottom, and once I found the sweet spot on the tone control, it had that vocal quality I love about SD pickups. The mid position had a great chimy tone that Lew often refers to as a great rhythm tone.

I played this guitar for a couple hours yesterday, mostly through my Blues Jr, but also through my DRRI, my Victoria Double Deluxe, and my old '56 Deluxe.
I'm very pleased with the balance of this set - something that's often discussed on the forum in regard to tele sets.

Some of this is probably old news to the tele players, but I usually find myself fighting teles. I'm no chicken picker, and as much as I try Country licks, they usually come out bluesy. :)

Having a great balanced tele tone though is a great starting place to revisit my whole approach. I just find it a little ironic that it's such a basic set ... we often talk about Custom Shop pickups, Antiquities, and some lesser used pickups, but I'll repeat something I needed to be reminded of:

Seymour's most basic, popular, and often recommended sets sound terrific!
 
Re: In praise of the Broadcaster/ Vintage Rhythm tele set

Nice post Curly!

The Broadcaster was one of the first Duncan Pickups I ever tried. I don't hear it as being overly bright though. Just real good!:)

As you pointed out, what might sound to bright in one guitar might sound perfect in a guitar with a warmer resonance.

People tend to think of alder as being warmer sounding than swamp ash but I'm not sure that's true. Alder is often used with a neck with a rosewood fingerboard and the rosewood fingerboard is often what's responsible for giving a guitar a warmer tone more so than the alder body.

Alder that's a little heavy can sound quite bright.

For example, in my super light weight swamp ash Tele (maple fingerboard) the Jerry Donahue sounded really good but I wanted to hear a little more treble.

When I put it in my alder Tele Custom (also a maple neck) which is a little heavier than my other Tele, the Jerry Donahue sounded alot brighter...but that's because the guitar itself has a brighter resonance.

That guitar is now my slide guitar, BTW.

Lew
 
Re: In praise of the Broadcaster/ Vintage Rhythm tele set

I've never tried a Broadcaster, but I can relate to what both of you are saying about "brightness", or percieved same. flank traded me an Ant II for a JD because he thought it was too bright. I did too at first, but realized that I had everything EQ'ed for darker pups. It wasn't shrill or anything. It was just rich in upper harmonics. Its now my favorite pup.

Artie
 
Re: In praise of the Broadcaster/ Vintage Rhythm tele set

ArtieToo said:
I've never tried a Broadcaster, but I can relate to what both of you are saying about "brightness", or percieved same. flank traded me an Ant II for a JD because he thought it was too bright. I did too at first, but realized that I had everything EQ'ed for darker pups. It wasn't shrill or anything. It was just rich in upper harmonics. Its now my favorite pup.

Artie

i agree Artie. I thought it was quite bright, but eventually i dialed in a darker sound, and it leveled that off. Instead of bright, all those highs just seemed more chimey and harmonically rich. The JD just has the more mids that i was looking for
 
Re: In praise of the Broadcaster/ Vintage Rhythm tele set

i just got the Broadcaster/vintage set for my mexi-tele. reports to follow
 
Re: In praise of the Broadcaster/ Vintage Rhythm tele set

Got to agree Curly, I also tried the JD in my Tele and ended up going right back to my old Broadcaster. Now I did end up with the Fralin Blues Special in the neck, but I think that even Lew will agree that this is a great combo.
 
Re: In praise of the Broadcaster/ Vintage Rhythm tele set

I might need to try tele neck pickups again. I always thought Tele rythm pickups sounded muffled and weak. That's why in my solid ash tele I have a SM1/JD combo and in my Thinline I have a PGn/STL-2 combo.

Any suggestions as to what neck pickup to pair with either the JD or STL-2?
 
Re: In praise of the Broadcaster/ Vintage Rhythm tele set

I haven't tried the Vintage neck and Broadcaster combo, in part because my Teles have the modern 6-saddle American Series bridges which can sound bright. I've stayed with SD's alnico 2 Tele lead pickups (Antiquity I's and JD) and the Fender Nocaster lead with alnico 3. However, I did put an alnico 5 Hot Tele lead (STL-2) in an HS Tele, and that works really well. I might just have to try a Broadcaster one day.

As for neck pickups, my favorite SD model is the Antiquity I Tele rhythm, but perhpas the Vintage would work for me, too. Something to think about for a rainy day. Thanks for the reminder, Curly!
 
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