Incoming NAD.. What OD pedal plays nice with a VHT Pitbull?

[karpathion]

I still can't believe I did this, but I used my tax money and ordered a used, VHT Pitbull 50CL, last night. I know it doesn't seem like much, but I have wanted this amp or a Mesa, Mark 4 or 5, for a very long time now. It's one of my holy grail amps, if you know what I mean.

I can't tell you much about it yet, because it's not here yet, but I do have a question for the VHT/Fryette, informed inividuals.

What would be a good Overdrive for an amp like this?

I've played one a few times, but was never able to experiment with ODs at all. And with these amps being so touch sensitive and articulate, I don't really know where to start my search. What will play nice with this type of amp?

To answer the question. I just feel like it needs a little bit more gain. It may have more than I realize.

 

[Van Noord]

Re: Incoming NAD.. What OD pedal plays nice with a VHT Pitbull?

An overdrive for what? Boost?
I've haven't tried one with mine, never felt the need.

 

[karpathion]

Re: Incoming NAD.. What OD pedal plays nice with a VHT Pitbull?

Well, you seem to be the guy to talk to.

Does it really have that much gain?And, How much does the tube rectifier/ss switch alter the gain, like they say? I've only spent a couple minutes here and there playing with a Pitbull, I just know I really liked them. I couldn't pass up the price I paid for this one.

 

[xxxplorer]

Re: Incoming NAD.. What OD pedal plays nice with a VHT Pitbull?

The one I played didn't need one at all. That amp is tight and articulate without being steril. It is a bit 'dry' and your mistakes come out... But it'll make you play better. Some high gain amps can be a bit loose... This isn't one.

 

[karpathion]

Re: Incoming NAD.. What OD pedal plays nice with a VHT Pitbull?

The one I played didn't need one at all. That amp is tight and articulate without being steril. It is a bit 'dry' and your mistakes come out... But it'll make you play better. Some high gain amps can be a bit loose... This isn't one.

I may just need to play with it for a few days and learn it. It may very well be that dryness that I have to get used to.

 

[LatsMcGee]

Re: Incoming NAD.. What OD pedal plays nice with a VHT Pitbull?

I had the 45 combo and I never used an od, I loved it with delay though...amazing amp...AMAZING!

 

[DankStar]

Re: Incoming NAD.. What OD pedal plays nice with a VHT Pitbull?

I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate you on your acquisition.

 

[Van Noord]

Re: Incoming NAD.. What OD pedal plays nice with a VHT Pitbull?

Well, you seem to be the guy to talk to.

Does it really have that much gain?And, How much does the tube rectifier/ss switch alter the gain, like they say? I've only spent a couple minutes here and there playing with a Pitbull, I just know I really liked them. I couldn't pass up the price I paid for this one.

I don't know about the model you bought, but the Ultralead has copious amounts of gain that never gets fizzy, muddy or out of control. The whole dial is usuable. I like just running straight in with hot pickups and a tight 4x12.

 

[Bludave]

Incoming NAD.. What OD pedal plays nice with a VHT Pitbull?

I would wait until you have the amp. Play with it for a while then see what you may need to do to goose it

 

[karpathion]

Re: Incoming NAD.. What OD pedal plays nice with a VHT Pitbull?

I don't know about the model you bought, but the Ultralead has copious amounts of gain that never gets fizzy, muddy or out of control. The whole dial is usuable. I like just running straight in with hot pickups and a tight 4x12.

Yours is a little different than mine. You have the Ultra Lead. It has more gain on tap than the CL.

I would wait until you have the amp. Play with it for a while then see what you may need to do to goose it

I think that's what I'm going to do. The problem is, I still have to wait until tuesday for it to arrive. I hate waiting for shipping. I have no patience for this.

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Incoming NAD.. What OD pedal plays nice with a VHT Pitbull?

UL or CL it still has a lot of gain on tap so you likely won't need an OD of any kind but if you do look for something with a tweakable EQ section.

VHT amps tend to be very focused in the high end and that makes them not so OD friendly with a lot of pedals.

This is all IMHO and YMMV...

 

[everdrone]

Re: Incoming NAD.. What OD pedal plays nice with a VHT Pitbull?

I would wait until you have the amp. Play with it for a while then see what you may need to do to goose it

+1 try what you have, its free! and it might be perfect as is.

guitarists love to tinker, cant resist another gadget... I see the youtube videos with the death metal amps and a green OD, I think why???

 

[Van Noord]

Re: Incoming NAD.. What OD pedal plays nice with a VHT Pitbull?

Sometimes an amp may not need a boost, but the player prefers the resulting sound of the amp with gain dialed back then boosted, instead of relying on the amps gain alone.
Boosting a JCM 800 is different than boosting a 5150, one needs the extra push, the other doesn't but sounds better to some players than simply driving the on board gain really high.

I have talked with some Pittbull owners who agree that the amps doesn't need any added gain, but state they desire a bit more saturation in the gain so add an OD pedal to use in conjunction to get that sound/feel. I can see that, but I don't do it myself because I like the amp's unique sound. I have other amps that do the ultra compressed and saturated high gain sound. So the Pittbull stands on its own just fine for me.
But by all means give it a shot, it could lead to your perfect sound.

 

[karpathion]

Re: Incoming NAD.. What OD pedal plays nice with a VHT Pitbull?

+1 try what you have, its free! and it might be perfect as is.

guitarists love to tinker, cant resist another gadget... I see the youtube videos with the death metal amps and a green OD, I think why???

Yeah, I'm just gonna learn the amp first. I know this is a different beast than what I'm used to.

I can't help but feel like a giddy little school girl. It makes my stomach flip over, everytime I think that I actually own a Pitbull. Just get here already!...