Inside an Air Norton

[walt]

I tried to post a link yesterday to a picture of the inside of an Air Norton for clairification on that subject. For those of you that were interested here's a link to that picture.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c76/wxs3/Photo003.jpg

Please note that while the quality of my camera sucks, you can still make out the 4 plastic spacers that create the "Air Bucker" on the corners of the magnet. A member here stated that as long as the pickup had "air gaps" that it was a Air Bucker and it didn't need the plastic spacers. I agree with half of the statement that you need the air gaps to create the air bucker, but you need the spacer to create the air gaps. This is in no way a slam on the other member, just clarification for myself and anyone else who may have had a question on this.

:beerchug:

 

[Davey]

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i cant see **** in that picture...



and damn. i thought you were going to slice it up =/

 

[dani]

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so that's how dmz does it. 4 spacers on the outermost slugs/polepieces to create a gap and they term it 'technology'.

 

[ranalli]

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so that's how dmz does it. 4 spacers on the outermost slugs/polepieces to create a gap and they term it 'technology'.

Well the "wheel" is a form of technology as well so yeah...that kinda makes sense.

 

[JB_From_Hell]

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so that's how dmz does it. 4 spacers on the outermost slugs/polepieces to create a gap and they term it 'technology'.

Yeah, that's way more misleading than selling the same pickup with different magnets/poles and calling them different things

 

[MDS]

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It is a different design and they created a term to describe it differently...whats the beef?

 

[Guitarist]

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No beef. The pickup sounds great, too.

 

[Tux789]

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is there a way to jerri rig similar plastic gaps on non-Dimarzio pickups

 

[MDS]

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No beef. The pickup sounds great, too.

Too bad, I like a beefy pickup!

 

[hamerfan]

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Tux , i think any type of rubber or silicone ring would work. The beef is a reduced power of the magnet: a cheap A5 with the strength of an a3 or A2

 

[WICKED LESTER]

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I tried to post a link yesterday to a picture of the inside of an Air Norton for clairification on that subject. For those of you that were interested here's a link to that picture.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c76/wxs3/Photo003.jpg

Please note that while the quality of my camera sucks, you can still make out the 4 plastic spacers that create the "Air Bucker" on the corners of the magnet. A member here stated that as long as the pickup had "air gaps" that it was a Air Bucker and it didn't need the plastic spacers. I agree with half of the statement that you need the air gaps to create the air bucker, but you need the spacer to create the air gaps. This is in no way a slam on the other member, just clarification for myself and anyone else who may have had a question on this.

:beerchug:

bro please do me a big favor and call my bud Steve blucher(chief designer at DMZ) at dimarzio:beerchug:
if you just remove the plastic spacers it is still a air bucker:smack:
HE TOLD ME THIS

those spacers you see at the corners are too keep the magnet centered and from toching the magnet
I have made many a duncan a air bucker

 

[WICKED LESTER]

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so that's how dmz does it. 4 spacers on the outermost slugs/polepieces to create a gap and they term it 'technology'.

i think it is a great idea as simplistic as it is:beerchug:
yeah it is technology since NO ONE EVER DID IT BEFORE

 

[dani]

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yeah it is technology since NO ONE EVER DID IT BEFORE

now that should be termed invention isn't it? :wink:

 

[WICKED LESTER]

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now that should be termed invention isn't it? :wink:

innovation or whatever you call it, it is damn clever:beerchug:

 

[WICKED LESTER]

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one other note,
a air bucker is not the same thing as a "aged" magnet
read,
What are Airbuckers?
Airbuckers are full-sized humbuckers that contain a gap or space between the magnet and the polepieces. The distance is quite small, and may be filled with nothing but air or by some non-magnetic material. The purpose of the gap is to lessen the magnetic field over the pickup, which in turn lets the string vibrate more freely. This results in a purer, more open sound and improved sustain.
The other purpose of the “air” design is to reliably reproduce the performance of vintage humbuckers (1950s and 60s), many of which contain magnets weakened by age and mishandling. Weakened or "aged" magnets are inherently unstable, and therefore cause unpredictable performance. Airbuckers utilize stable, full-strength magnets, yet the magnetic field is the same as produced by an "aged" magnet, thus offering the performance advantage without the unpredictability.

 

[chill]

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So are the airbucker magnets narrower than standard magnets, or are the polepieces slightly farther apart?

 

[WICKED LESTER]

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So are the airbucker magnets narrower than standard magnets, or are the polepieces slightly farther apart?

no they are the same dimension as most standard mags, but there is NO screw keeper bar for the screws and the stud poles are thinner at the bottom where the magent's side is
this creates a gap between the mag and the poles:beerchug:

 

[walt]

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no they are the same dimension as most standard mags, but there is NO screw keeper bar for the screws and the stud poles are thinner at the bottom where the magent's side is
this creates a gap between the mag and the poles:beerchug:

I'm not doubting you, I'm just curious, any pics??