Installed An Old 80's Custom ......

Jeff_H

Dean Hardtail Fanologist
......in my Spalted Maple Dean Hardtail. I had a Slash Set in it that I had been testing out, and they sounded fantastic. But I have several other sets of pickups coming soon and I wanted to try out the Custom for longer than the 10 minutes I'd tried it before.

So, this is a double cream large SD logo with no MIA stamp, which was used from 83-88. The label is DCJ. Holy cow! It took me a bit to dial the height in right. It's pretty sensitive to height adjustments, at least in this guitar, but once I had it in the right height range it became this glorious driven rock and roll destroyer. I should say at this point that back in 02-03 I bought a C5 that I hated in an Epi LP and my new at the time Dean Hardtail. I tried it as a CC and as a Custom in several guitars and ultimately left it as a CC in a strat.

Back to this Custom. I don't know if it's because this is an old Custom or if this guitar just responds to it well, but again..... Holy Cow! With volume and tone on 10, it is bright (in a good way) and crunchy. You can hear every single note in chords ring out and the way it crunches is magical. The easiest way for me to describe it is late 70's to mid 80's Scorpions rhythm sound. All of those great riffs like Blackout, The Zoo and of course Rock You Like A Hurricane. If I roll the tone control back just a bit, like 8.5 or 9 it takes off just enough of the brightness and it sounds more like a PAF style humbucker. Not as aggressive vs. full tilt, but still nice and crunchy rock and roll tone. I don't find it harsh or over the top ceramic sounding like some other high output SD pickups I've tried, such as the Distortion, the PATB-2 or even the PATB-1, if I get it too close to the strings. It also really does have a good clean tone when I roll volume to 8, tone to 7 or so and switch to the clean channel with some reverb and chorus. I could use it on any rock song that I can think of where there are warm clean tones and then a switch to a hard driving rhythm.

The Custom really added a nice little kick or extra gear to my DSL40c, on both the Green Classic Crunch channel and the Red channel #1. On the Green Classic it's like the gain knob went to 11 or 12 and on Red 1 I could get the same crunch with the gain knob at noon as compared to needing it at 2-3 o'clock with a 59' or even a Slash bridge. It also just makes my amp sound better. Just better.

I have a set of WLH's, Low Output set from James at ReWind and a set from a guy named Mark Norwine (his "Vic Set) that will be here this week. The plan was to try them all in this Spalted Maple Dean, as it's been finicky about what pickups sound good in it. The Slash Set has been the best so far and I could have been perfectly happy with them, but I have a chance to try these other sets so I don't want to miss the opportunity. I might even have to displace my favorite PAF Greenie set in my other Hardtail to try some of these sets.

At any rate, this Custom rocks and I don't want to take it out of this guitar. It's that good. I don't know if it's because it's an 80's version or what. I do have a few older pickups from that era now that sound really good and I do think some of these pickups made with the different 80's materials sound better than current production models. That's my personal experience anyhow.

Give the Custom a try if you want a pickup that can do classic rock to metal. I think the Custom would get as heavy as you want with the right amp. If you can find an old 80's 3 letter sticker version..... even better. I was genuinely blown away.
 
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The old 80’s Seymour/MJ Customs are like a new improved JB++ Swiss Army knife.
 
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......in my Spalted Maple Dean Hardtail. I had a Slash Set in it that I had been testing out, and they sounded fantastic. But I have several other sets of pickups coming soon and I wanted to try out the Custom for longer than the 10 minutes I'd tried it before.

So, this is a double cream large SD logo with no MIA stamp, which was used from 83-88. The label is DCJ. Holy cow! It took me a bit to dial the height in right. It's pretty sensitive to height adjustments, at least in this guitar, but once I had it in the right height range it became this glorious driven rock and roll destroyer. I should say at this point that back in 02-03 I bought a C5 that I hated in an Epi LP and my new at the time Dean Hardtail. I tried it as a CC and as a Custom in several guitars and ultimately left it as a CC in a strat.

Back to this Custom. I don't know if it's because this is an old Custom or if this guitar just responds to it well, but again..... Holy Cow! With volume and tone on 10, it is bright (in a good way) and crunchy. You can hear every single note in chords ring out and the way it crunches is magical. The easiest way for me to describe it is late 70's to mid 80's Scorpions rhythm sound. All of those great riffs like Blackout, The Zoo and of course Rock You Like A Hurricane. If I roll the tone control back just a bit, like 8.5 or 9 it takes off just enough of the brightness and it sounds more like a PAF style humbucker. Not as aggressive vs. full tilt, but still nice and crunchy rock and roll tone. I don't find it harsh or over the top ceramic sounding like some other high output SD pickups I've tried, such as the Distortion, the PATB-2 or even the PATB-1, if I get it too close to the strings. It also really does have a good clean tone when I roll volume to 8, tone to 7 or so and switch to the clean channel with some reverb and chorus. I could use it on any rock song that I can think of where there are warm clean tones and then a switch to a hard driving rhythm.

The Custom really added a nice little kick or extra gear to my DSL40c, on both the Green Classic Crunch channel and the Red channel #1. On the Green Classic it's like the gain knob went to 11 or 12 and on Red 1 I could get the same crunch with the gain knob at noon as compared to needing it at 2-3 o'clock with a 59' or even a Slash bridge. It also just makes my amp sound better. Just better.

At any rate, this Custom rocks and I don't want to take it out of this guitar. It's that good. I don't know if it's because it's an 80's version or what. I do have a few older pickups from that era now that sound really good and I do think some of these pickups made with the different 80's materials sound better than current production models. That's my personal experience anyhow.

Give the Custom a try if you want a pickup that can do classic rock to metal. I think the Custom would get as heavy as you want with the right amp. If you can find an old 80's 3 letter sticker version..... even better. I was genuinely blown away.

Exactly. :bigthumb:

Try it through a Plexi circuit sometime.

BTW, I did an EQ curve test with my early 80's Custom vs. a brand new Custom and the difference was miniscule.
 
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Interesting about the similar EQ curve. I wonder if it's just placebo that I like the older ones so much? My Custom is only about 15.79k, which is some lower than current spec. I'm going to check my notes to see if I remembered the reading correctly.

Whatever is going on, I am simply smitten with the Custom I have. It might be the greatest rock humbucker ever. It's surely right up there.

Edit...I think 15.79k is my 80's JBD. My Custom DCJ is 13.31k.
 
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The Custom has always been my favorite bridge humbucker. It sounds good in LP's and Strats!
 
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Interesting about the similar EQ curve. I wonder if it's just placebo that I like the older ones so much? My Custom is only about 15.79k, which is some lower than current spec. I'm going to check my notes to see if I remembered the reading correctly.

Whatever is going on, I am simply smitten with the Custom I have. It might be the greatest rock humbucker ever. It's surely right up there.

Edit...I think 15.79k is my 80's JBD. My Custom DCJ is 13.31k.

I've only had a single 80s Custom, a cream DCJ like yours before one of the coils died. It sounded great, but I didn't notice a huge difference between it and the early 2000s Custom in my Explorer.
 
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I also have a white turned to off-white (almost creme) DCJ that i am dying to put into something. I tested it out in one of my pickup beater guitars and it sounded incredible! It may end up in one of my Les Paul studios.
 
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I've only had a single 80s Custom, a cream DCJ like yours before one of the coils died. It sounded great, but I didn't notice a huge difference between it and the early 2000s Custom in my Explorer.

I hope you didn't get rid of the one with the dead coil? MJ can fix that right up. If not, I'd buy it.
 
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I hope you didn't get rid of the one with the dead coil? MJ can fix that right up. If not, I'd buy it.

I'm not 100% sure where it is (I moved since it broke) but I still have it.

Great in warm LPs, but it peels the paper off the walls with brighter strats.

I like the CC in Strats; a ceramic Custom can be either too bright or too bassy depending on the Strat. I've yet to come across a guitar or situation where I like the C5 at all.
 
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I'm not 100% sure where it is (I moved since it broke) but I still have it.

Well, if you find it and want to let it go, give me a shout. We'll figure out something that works for you.

I like the CC in Strats; a ceramic Custom can be either too bright or too bassy depending on the Strat. I've yet to come across a guitar or situation where I like the C5 at all.

This is exactly how I feel. CC in a strat can be glorious, but the C5 just doesn't work for me anywhere.
 
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I'm not 100% sure where it is (I moved since it broke) but I still have it.



I like the CC in Strats; a ceramic Custom can be either too bright or too bassy depending on the Strat. I've yet to come across a guitar or situation where I like the C5 at all.

Yea i somewhat agree. I am still trying to find a good home for the Sh-14 i have. It is SOOOO scooped more than any other pickup i own. I need to have a very mid heavy guitar to put it in. I bet it would sound excellent in a Les paul though.
 
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The Custom is a great option to wake up a guitar. I slapped one with a PG neck in a MusicYo Kramer for a buddy of mine. Totally changed the guitar, and for the better.
 
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It's funny that so many don't like the Custom 5, as it was developed from input from the Duncan forum members.
Al
 
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It's funny that so many don't like the Custom 5, as it was developed from input from the Duncan forum members.
Al

Actually, the C5 is my favorite version. The Antiquity is the only A2 based pickup I seem to get along with.
 
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Yea i somewhat agree. I am still trying to find a good home for the Sh-14 i have. It is SOOOO scooped more than any other pickup i own. I need to have a very mid heavy guitar to put it in. I bet it would sound excellent in a Les paul though.

I fixed my C5 by swapping an A2 into it and installing it in my Charvel Model 4.
 
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I fixed my C5 by swapping an A2 into it and installing it in my Charvel Model 4.

Doesn't that just make it a CC (I still can't keep these Custom models straight in my head)?. They made the Custom 5 because Duncan Forumites asked for an A5 version, but now the prevailing sentiment seems to be that most don't like it much. Changing tastes?.
Al
 
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Doesn't that just make it a CC (I still can't keep these Custom models straight in my head)?. They made the Custom 5 because Duncan Forumites asked for an A5 version, but now the prevailing sentiment seems to be that most don't like it much. Changing tastes?.
Al

Yeah, it does. For me, I use a C5 in mid-heavy guitars. I have one where a C5 is perfect. I don't like it in balanced guitars. It is a good example (for me) of how a pickup can 'fix' inherent problems with the sound of a guitar.
 
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It's funny that so many don't like the Custom 5, as it was developed from input from the Duncan forum members.
Al
iMO every Member of the Custom Family needs a certain guitar, sometimes a certain amp too. You can't beat riffing on a SG with a C5 thru a full blown Marshall.
 
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