installing new inlays on an existing fretboard

Re: installing new inlays on an existing fretboard

Hey!
is it possible to install new inlays in an existing guitar?(that has no inlays)

Very difficult and time consuming without a refret. You could go another route and use inlay decals
 
Re: installing new inlays on an existing fretboard

Decals haha please don't. Stickers don't belong on a fretboard.

What sort of inlays are we talking? Dots would be easy, i actually did this exact thing for a mates acoustic the other week.
 
Re: installing new inlays on an existing fretboard

One method I've seen is put tape on the fretboard, trace around the inlays, with a dremel tool drill out the inlay shape into the fretboard down to an appropriate depth, then glue the inlay in.
 
Re: installing new inlays on an existing fretboard

To get the inlay to really sit evenly, leveling the fingerboard is necessary, which implies a refret.
 
Re: installing new inlays on an existing fretboard

Like I was taught in engineering school -

There's good, better and best. Now what is the customer willing to pay for? I think it applies here.
 
Re: installing new inlays on an existing fretboard

Well its no doubt better to do it with the frets off. But dots unlike other inlays are basic so you can get them level easily enough with the frets on without the hassle.

If it was my guitar i wouldn't bother, Soon you will find you wont even need the dots once you get to know the instrument.
 
Re: installing new inlays on an existing fretboard

It's very difficult without refretting as well. But, of course, it can be done for a price. Eric Chaz (Eric's Guitar Shop) in L.A. is great at stuff like that.
 
Re: installing new inlays on an existing fretboard

I had inlays added to a Blackout Tele. I just added dots but it was done by a master luthier. He didn't touch the frets. In fact I think the frets make it easier to align all the inlays.
 
Re: installing new inlays on an existing fretboard

For dots, you can just drill a hole to size of the dot you have and glue the dot in (or just fill the newly drilled hole with clay or something like that). This you can do without a refret and you'll just have to sand the inlay flush to the fretboard.

Now if you want a design like trapezoids, blocks, celtic crosses etc, you will need to level the fretboard entirely (meaning a refret later), cut out what you want, insert the inlay, radius the board, fret it, and then all the setup work ensues.

For some guitars, I would rather just make a new fretboard starting from there, removing the old fretboard carefully with a heat gun (or moisture if the glue is water-soluble) and gluing the new fretboard on. I think this would be better in the case of a set neck guitar like a Les Paul where material is removed from the fretboard - therefore the frets will be positioned lower which could be problematic during setup in relation to the bridge. On bolt-ons you would be able to just shim the neck to the correct height.
 
Re: installing new inlays on an existing fretboard

I thought about taking a swing at this, and did some research. Best option is to remove the frets like everyone is saying. So now you have to spend time and/or money just on that. If you need a refret anyway, than that's not too bad. But without taking off the frets, it would be hella difficult to do it right. Just shy of torture from what I learned in my research.
 
Re: installing new inlays on an existing fretboard

Honestly, I'd just go the sticker inlay route. They're cheap, look good and do the job. No reason to turn your nose up at em.
 
Re: installing new inlays on an existing fretboard

Here's an interesting thread that is quoted on several guitar forums (hate to redirect to other forums, but...). In this case it doesn't cover routing/drilling out the pattern for a new inlay, but it shows all the rest including leaving the frets on and still shaping the inlay to match the neck curve.
http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145124&highlight=cellulose

There are some images in the upper half of this page showing what you're in for using a 'frets off' technique.
http://crimsonguitars.com/workshop-diary/300511

...and another example in the bottom part of this page.
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=43970

Despite all that, I saw some of the best comprehensive information on the subject not on electric guitar sites but others - like acoustic guitar and banjo sites. Apparently acoustic guitars have fretboards customized much more often than electric guitars, so there seem to be a few more resources and information out there if you venture away from just electric guitar sites.
 
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