Interesting Behringer Pedal

[Closed Eye]

Vintage Time Machine VM1

It's a Electro Harmonix Memory Man clone. I'd like to think it might suck, but a part of me is hoping it'll be a gem...

 

[sgman]

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Let us know,,,,,,,,

 

[Zerberus]

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They´re not even trying to hide it anymore, are they?

And still, even though everyone complains about IP theft and western jobs moving to china, they continue buy them because they´re 10 bucks cheaper on the initial purchase :smack:

Vintage Time Machine VM1

It's a Electro Harmonix Memory Man clone. I'd like to think it might suck, but a part of me is hoping it'll be a gem...

My guess is that it will probably sound almost exactly the same as the original and fall apart in a 10th of the time due to it´s flimsier construction. Just like all of the Behringer products I´ve experienced so far. I started to perefer spending those 10$ more but only spending them once

 

[Reload in 5]

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They´re not even trying to hide it anymore, are they?

And still, even though everyone complains about IP theft and western jobs moving to china, they continue buy them because they´re 10 bucks cheaper on the initial purchase :smack:



My guess is that it will probably sound almost exactly the same as the original and fall apart in a 10th of the time due to it´s flimsier construction. Just like all of the Behringer products I´ve experienced so far. I started to perefer spending those 10$ more but only spending them once

If it was $10 bucks nobody would buy them. Looks like it costs about $70 and the EH is about $200-$300

 

[ratherdashing]

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Behringer stuff is like a hot 17-year-old girl ... very tempting, but you know you'll just get in trouble and regret it forever.

 

[Red_Label]

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Behringer stuff is like a hot 17-year-old girl ... very tempting, but you know you'll just get in trouble and regret it forever.

I've owned a V-Amp2 for three years now. And a Vampire 1X12 combo and Vampire head for two years each. I've even gigged the Vampire head and liked it, but solid-state/digital amps lack the clean headroom I need live. For home use, there is NO better value than the Behringer stuff. I've recorded with them and rehearsed. I could not be happier with them for what they are. In fact, when their Bugera tube heads finally come-out, I'll be first in line to try one.

 

[Shauggy]

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They´re not even trying to hide it anymore, are they?

Did you see what those pedals looked like when they first came out? The tuner was white with orange letters, the delay was off-white with blue letters, etc - they were even shaped JUST like the Boss pedals.

I remember seeing the headline when they lost the lawsuit - it said "Roland Shows Behringer who's BOSS"

 

[Mincer]

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well, you can't fault them for trying. when EH bumps up prices of 'vintage' effects to past the $300 mark- and they are probably made in the same chinese factory, it only serves them right that someone comes up with a cheaper alternative. Has anyone priced boutique overdrives lately? Several hundred for less than $15 in parts.
People still eat at Taco Bell knowing they might regret it later, but you can leave full on just $5.

 

[J Moose]

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Swirly...

http://www.behringer.com/PH9/index.cfm?lang=eng

The old, OLD German made Benhringer goods weren't too bad, but they haven't made that stuff in like 15+ years. I have one of the Composer compressors on the DVD player of my home theatre...

The new stuff breaks.

Use once & toss away.

If it lasts for two shows, or even THREE by some miracle then 'yer really super lucky. Regardless, it never sounds that great...

 

[Hecubus]

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Swirly...

If it lasts for two shows, or even THREE by some miracle then 'yer really super lucky. Regardless, it never sounds that great...

Just like if Tom Behringer was a pedal! Platoon= Amazing; Major League= hilarious; Major League II= starting to fade... and then it just turns into a pile of useless sh#t.

 

[Hecubus]

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Actually, I've had a Behringer Mixer for a couple of years and bought an EQ pedal last year for $19. The pre-amps aren't that great on the Mixer but I think they have upgraded them since. It is a Mackie clone and works just as well for 1/3 the price although the housing is a bit thin. Same thing with the pedal--just as good as the BOSS for home use. If you were to take it on the road, 3 gigs max (pretty flimsy palstic housing). The smart DIYer would pick up a bundle of these and rehouse them. While I am pleased with the Behringer stuff I have used, I wouldn't replace my BOSS pedals based on the build quality alone.

 

[PFDarkside]

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well, you can't fault them for trying. when EH bumps up prices of 'vintage' effects to past the $300 mark- and they are probably made in the same chinese factory, it only serves them right that someone comes up with a cheaper alternative.

The cost is those BBD chips. I have to imagine they are using something inferior, same as with the Boss VB-2 knockoff, people can't get the correct part to clone it, so if Behringer is mass producing it they are using a different component obviously.

That then leads to the questions of IP, Quality and if you need 100% accurate tone. Like you said though, it's funny to me that there is this ethics issue in pedals when so many try to make a buck off of the Fuzz Face and TS-9 style pedals.

 

[JB_From_Hell]

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Like you said though, it's funny to me that there is this ethics issue in pedals when so many try to make a buck off of the Fuzz Face and TS-9 style pedals.

And people have "What's the best LP/PRS clone?" all the time without anyone going, "Hey, they copied that!" What about Xssive's Clone guitars? He can't think about posting a pic of a new one without 100,000 people replying, "Dude, that thing's awesome!"

Behringer isn't aiming at the same audience as the companies they copy. The people who buy Behringer products aren't buying them because they're superior to Line 6, Boss, EH, etc.... they buy them because that's what they can afford.

 

[J Moose]

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Just like if Tom Behringer was a pedal! Platoon= Amazing; Major League= hilarious; Major League II= starting to fade... and then it just turns into a pile of useless sh#t.

BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Yah.

Something like that...

heheheheh

Those Smackie mixers aren't all that "great" either. I mean, they're pretty good for the semi-pro, weekend warrior crowd...probably about as good as it gets in that realm, especially next to a Carvin or Yorkville...

But to COPY that design & put it into an even flimiser housing with EVEN cheaper parts? :eek13:

Whuddever.

To me, there's a real difference between 'borrowing' a classic design...ala the glut of TS-9 & Fuzz Face clones and blatent, OUTRIGHT knock-offs like Behringer makes.

It's not a new thing... Hell, they were doing it 20 years ago too!

Some of those old processors like the Intelligate (which rocks!) & exciter were EXACT copies of designs from other companies, namely the Drawmer DS201 and Aphex Aural Exciter... to the point of having interchanagable components.

Eventually BOTH companys sued the Big "B" in German court and won their cases. Smackie sued 'em too in US courts over the mixers, won that case as well.

You'd think that maybe they'd have learned a lesson by now...

 

[Red_Label]

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And people have "What's the best LP/PRS clone?" all the time without anyone going, "Hey, they copied that!" What about Xssive's Clone guitars? He can't think about posting a pic of a new one without 100,000 people replying, "Dude, that thing's awesome!"

Behringer isn't aiming at the same audience as the companies they copy. The people who buy Behringer products aren't buying them because they're superior to Line 6, Boss, EH, etc.... they buy them because that's what they can afford.

Word.

 

[ginormous]

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Behringer was OK until Samson (Sam Ash stores' corporate parent) took over, and started diddling with the manufacturing cost per unit.

Now, instead of original designs, they're making clones. *sigh*

However, semi-conductors, chips, etc. are all made in the same places by the same companies. It's the design. Factories only make what they're told to make, out of the materials they're told to use.

 

[CapoFirstFret]

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Just wondered if anyone spotted this one too:

Vintage Tube Overdrive

 

[Shauggy]

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Haha and this one:
Memory Man?

and this:
Smart Gate?

Wow.

Just wondered if anyone spotted this one too:

Vintage Tube Overdrive

 

[Closed Eye]

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Haha and this one:
Memory Man?

The Smart Gate I'll give ya', but did you even read the first post?

Vintage Time Machine VM1

It's a Electro Harmonix Memory Man clone. I'd like to think it might suck, but a part of me is hoping it'll be a gem...

 

[Shauggy]

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oh, haha....yup, I'm a retard.