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[tc]

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nice pic...white ones...just like mine haha. gotta love those huge allen heads...if you see a guitar with a pickup that has 'em and it says "seymour duncan" you know that thing is anything but thin. in fact you know it's FAT!!! one question though...how do they sound on something like a les paul?? is it overkill??

 

[Dr.Mavashi]

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Since this is clearly most missunderstood pup from SD, its time for the Invader club T-shirt !!!

 

[Loserchief]

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Never warmed up with the invader. I played it in several different guitars and several different tunings. Don't know if any of those guitars had the cap mod but overall the pup was too dark and muddy for me.
It's great for chuggah chuggah but once i started playing more technical stuff(necrophagist,meshuggah) it just lacked the tightness and clarity i needed.

 

[Jay 77]

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nice pic...white ones...just like mine haha. gotta love those huge allen heads...if you see a guitar with a pickup that has 'em and it says "seymour duncan" you know that thing is anything but thin. in fact you know it's FAT!!! one question though...how do they sound on something like a les paul?? is it overkill??

I think it'll work with anything, and it's just a matter of taste. That being said, the Invader does have a lot of low end, and low mids so in a Paul it may seem too muddy to some. The guitar I have it in has a lot of mids and some highs, so it's an excellent compliment. The sound I get out of that thing is nothing short of amazing.

 

[Dr.Mavashi]

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Never warmed up with the invader. I played it in several different guitars and several different tunings. Don't know if any of those guitars had the cap mod but overall the pup was too dark and muddy for me.
It's great for chuggah chuggah but once i started playing more technical stuff(necrophagist,meshuggah) it just lacked the tightness and clarity i needed.

Well, it could have been the speakers and the tubes .... if you played say the hair metal G12T75s (God knows they drive me nuts in my cab) and with say mesa or sovtek EL34s then lack of tightness was not so much invader, but on the other hand if you had EL34Ls with maybe V30s and rolled of the volume on the guitar to about 7/8, trust me it would be a different story. I play a lot of palm muted single note/pedal note riffs on E and A strings, kinda like Helloween/RunningWild/Sabbath style and when ever its not my cab :banghead: I am amazed with the tightness and the telegraph-pole-in-the-face-attack Inavder delivers.

 

[anewdefguitarist]

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...im so pissed at myself for not picking one up from that martin guy...fck i always blow this ****, lol

 

[tc]

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well, can i say sucks to be you?? btw how do those acrylics sound??

 

[Loserchief]

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Well, it could have been the speakers and the tubes .... if you played say the hair metal G12T75s (God knows they drive me nuts in my cab) and with say mesa or sovtek EL34s then lack of tightness was not so much invader, but on the other hand if you had EL34Ls with maybe V30s and rolled of the volume on the guitar to about 7/8, trust me it would be a different story. I play a lot of palm muted single note/pedal note riffs on E and A strings, kinda like Helloween/RunningWild/Sabbath style and when ever its not my cab :banghead: I am amazed with the tightness and the telegraph-pole-in-the-face-attack Inavder delivers.

I know that the amp and cab can make a world of a difference but most of the invaders i tried were in friend's guitars or at music-shops. I tried pretty much all of them through either my own Engl Powerball with a V30 4x12 or some other Engl(PBs or Screamers mostly) at the shop. I can see that it chugs great but for stuff thath requires super precision and tightness i'll stay with my usuall choice of Evo/Dime/Full Shred. Compared to those pups the invader sounds like a mud ball.

 

[stangme01]

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YOu know mine was completely stock and although i didn't like alot of things about it i could tell that if some things were corrected it would sound awesome, and from what people have said about the proper hex pole pieces they do exactly what i feel the invader needed to be a "great" pickup for certain types of
music. I actually ordered the hex pole pieces for mine but sold the guitar it was in before they were delivered (guy wanted the invader and wouldn't have it any other way!) when winter comes and i get back into guitar mode i will pick another one up and test out the hex poles and report back.

 

[anewdefguitarist]

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well, can i say sucks to be you?? btw how do those acrylics sound??

its a love/hate. even with the mesa providing my growl. when i just shut the **** up and play, i dont mind it, and neither does the crowd. i think my problem is ive been trying to make them sound more like a Paul, or a PRS or something else. when i should've been utilizing what they're really good at...and that is low gain and clean sounds. seriously, i cant believe the clean and low gain sounds i can get outta my acryllics. when we're in the "old school" portion of our 4 hour set (rockin me, what i got, blink, NEM, bother, yellow ledbedder, tom petty, etc etc) i go straight for those acrylics. i haven't spent enough time just sitting with them, tweaking them and what not though for the high gain stuff... im guilty and i'll be the first to tell you. my worst headache is trying to decide if i want to jump on a GREAT invader deal, or try something more vintage voiced. my logic has always been "they're bright and sorta abbrassive at times, so overload them with low end and it'll be fixed." it really weird though, the more mids and bass i try to throw at it the more it seems to not accept them. when i scoop my eq...it sounds pretty good. when i has something like b:8 m: 6 t:5 it still has lack of sustain or something... what i need to be doing is matching it with something that lets it do its thing. its a very tight guitar. and like i said before, it can freakin nail some older style stuff. i think part of the problem is the pickups not being able to handle the gain? sounds full and fat on my mesa's "vintage" voicing but doesnt have enough bite - and has all the right scream and spank on the pushed and raw voicings but on those channels you cant do hard rock/metal. just lacks in the high gain dept. almost like the material vibrates too fast or something and everything gets too focused on one area of the tonal spectrum and isnt allowed to "breath" like a wood guitar. so in a very long drawn out way i hope i answered your question about them...like i said, its love/hate at times. after our last gig, i was in low gain ****!ng bliss. some gigs im ready to sell them and some gigs i wouldn't trade them for all the Jack in the south. and speaking of jack...i gotta get back to my drink :friday:


maybe an invader is just what i need. add some looseness to it and let it resonate a little......hhmmm....:scratchch anybody every try one with A5 or A2???

 

[Fender_Punk]

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Next time I get an Invader, I'm going to try a quasi mellowing experiment by partially unwinding the inside coil (facing away from bridge) and replacing the ceramic with an Alnico 5 (or 8 if I like them). I figure I'll reduce the the coil from 8.4k to about 5k or so for a 13.4k total.

The stronger coil would be under a brighter harmonic node so the reduced overall resistance + stronger bright coil + narrower inside coil might give it some of that top end articulation back. But still with plenty of wall-flattening beef.

That would be a near-perfect punk rock 'bucker!!! Hmm, I can hear it now, that in a Ash Strat with a TBX would just melt faces, blow skirts off, and level parliament to nothing but rubble!!!