Is Duncan P-90 Stack originally more single-pickup like sound than Gibson P-90?

[psychepool]

Just out of curiosity, I put a Duncan stack on a telecaster that used to have Gibson P-90 on it.

I've used Gibson P-100 pickup before.
I remembered that it sounded quite like a humbucker, so I expected SD P-90 stacks to do the same, but it was the opposite.
SD pickup gave off a much more single-pickupish sound than Gibson P90. Gibson P-90 was a much more punchy and heavy sounded compared to the SD stack.

I wonder how you feel about the Duncan Stack. Does originally the Duncan stack have a lighter output than Gibson P90 and have a brighter sound with a medium and high accent overall?

 

[Aceman]

Re: Is Duncan P-90 Stack originally more single-pickup like sound than Gibson P-90?

I can't comment on the Duncan P90 Stack.

I have had P100's. They are horrible as P90's go. Just pure tone crap.
As for a Gibson P90, I'd never replace one. They are exactly the P90 reference tone everyone is referring to when they talk about P-90's
Duncan Vintage P90s are similar. The Phat Cat 9HB sized) is close enough.

I would expect Duncan's P90 stack for whatever to be quieter, and close to a real P90. Maybe not exact.

Now...lets never mention P100s ever again when discussing P90s

 

[Mincer]

Re: Is Duncan P-90 Stack originally more single-pickup like sound than Gibson P-90?

I always thought that the Duncan stacked P90s sounded better than the Gibson versions. Both don't have the snap and thwack of a P90, though, so if I really needed to cancel hum, I might find another way to do it...maybe a dummy coil or something.

 

[Aceman]

Re: Is Duncan P-90 Stack originally more single-pickup like sound than Gibson P-90?

I always thought that the Duncan stacked P90s sounded better than the Gibson versions. Both don't have the snap and thwack of a P90, though, so if I really needed to cancel hum, I might find another way to do it...maybe a dummy coil or something.

By the Gibson version, did you mean P100's? As their "stacked um-cancelling" P90?

 

[Mincer]

Re: Is Duncan P-90 Stack originally more single-pickup like sound than Gibson P-90?

By the Gibson version, did you mean P100's? As their "stacked um-cancelling" P90?

Yes, I didn't remember their model number.

 

[psychepool]

Re: Is Duncan P-90 Stack originally more single-pickup like sound than Gibson P-90?

I can't comment on the Duncan P90 Stack.

I have had P100's. They are horrible as P90's go. Just pure tone crap.
As for a Gibson P90, I'd never replace one. They are exactly the P90 reference tone everyone is referring to when they talk about P-90's
Duncan Vintage P90s are similar. The Phat Cat 9HB sized) is close enough.

I would expect Duncan's P90 stack for whatever to be quieter, and close to a real P90. Maybe not exact.

Now...lets never mention P100s ever again when discussing P90s

I didn't want to talk about P100 too.
The P100 certainly seems like a huge failure, given that such a huge reaction comes from a single word mentioned.
Personally, I felt that the sound itself was not bad. The problem was that I didn't see any difference from humbucker.

I always thought that the Duncan stacked P90s sounded better than the Gibson versions. Both don't have the snap and thwack of a P90, though, so if I really needed to cancel hum, I might find another way to do it...maybe a dummy coil or something.

I also thought it was better than Gibson's P100.

You may be laugh at me, but frankly speaking, the Duncan Stack was closer to the sound of the P90 imprinted on my head.
Gibson P90 is much more wild and tough. There was some low-end booming, and overall, it wasn't easy to control.
But the Duncan Stack had a very neat, manageable sound, just like a sound mixed up after recording. It was a bright and pretty sound that felt much more like a single coil than Gibson.

Unexpectedly, noise was not much of a consideration. Of course Gibson's noise is incredibly loud, but I didn't think it was too intrusive until I tried the Duncan Stack.

My heart goes to Duncun Stack more, but I think I'll miss Gibson Pickup's wildness.
It's also a concern as the route needs to be dug deeper to mount the stack.

 

[allstarrme]

Re: Is Duncan P-90 Stack originally more single-pickup like sound than Gibson P-90?

I replaced a set of Gibson p90’s with sd stacked p90’s. I added push pull pots so I could switch series and parallel and still be humbucking. They sounded better to me in series like paf buckers, in parallel they didn’t have the p90 magic.

Honestly I’ll probably put the Gibson p90’s back with an A8 in the bridge or something slightly hotter but not stacked. I have had my eye on the mojotone p90 quiet coils though, they are sideways stacks that supposedly sound better.

 

[psychepool]

Re: Is Duncan P-90 Stack originally more single-pickup like sound than Gibson P-90?

I replaced a set of Gibson p90’s with sd stacked p90’s. I added push pull pots so I could switch series and parallel and still be humbucking. They sounded better to me in series like paf buckers, in parallel they didn’t have the p90 magic.

Honestly I’ll probably put the Gibson p90’s back with an A8 in the bridge or something slightly hotter but not stacked. I have had my eye on the mojotone p90 quiet coils though, they are sideways stacks that supposedly sound better.

I also tried a series switch.
Series mode has unique push-over power in high-gain settings so I got one more option to choose.
But in ordinary use, It has very stuffy sound that feel like some filters on it. So I don't think I'll be able to use it well personally.

The sideway stack type of Lindy Fralin or Mojotone is of interest to me but too expensive.
I don't want to pay that much because I have to pay additional taxes if I ship it to where I live.
Duncan Stack is much more reasonable in price, and tax payments can also be avoided if it targets second-hand products or products that come out a little cheaper, widening the price gap with Lindy or Mojotone.
However, it is regrettable that there will be a cost for additional routes to the body.

 

[uOpt]

Re: Is Duncan P-90 Stack originally more single-pickup like sound than Gibson P-90?

I hated the P100.

As far as the stacks go, they must sound different because of the different polepieces and magnets that you must use in a stack (as opposed to a magnets-at-bottom setup).

 

[Aceman]

Re: Is Duncan P-90 Stack originally more single-pickup like sound than Gibson P-90?

Psyched nailed it. P100 might have been a decent humbucker of some sort. Total failure as a P90 however...

 

[ErikH]

Re: Is Duncan P-90 Stack originally more single-pickup like sound than Gibson P-90?

A P90 is probably the only single-coil pickup that I would prefer NOT to have a stack. They just have this magic going on when they are GOOD P90's, and by good I mean made by Gibson, Duncan, Lollar. Those have been the best that I have heard/played with.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Is Duncan P-90 Stack originally more single-pickup like sound than Gibson P-90?

How did the P100 ever get made if it universally sounds...bad? I mean, didn't they test these things?

 

[allstarrme]

Re: Is Duncan P-90 Stack originally more single-pickup like sound than Gibson P-90?

How did the P100 ever get made if it universally sounds...bad? I mean, didn't they test these things?

Does Gibson ever test their pickups they sell? They make guitars, and equip them with what I can only assume looks good on paper that they can produce at a low cost. Most of the pickups they made are not good and every once In a while they make a mistake and have a good one.

People said they wanted a hum free p90 so they made it regardless of how it sounds.

Have you tried the 495 Firebird pickups they are making? Just the worst sounding mudbuckers since mid 90’s epiphone.