Re: is it just me, or?
I seriously pondered whether this thread was even worth anywering to...it was.....
drew_half_empty said:
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roots before branches, kid. People were rocking out on strats before either of us were born.
And they were doing exactly the same thing on Les pauls, Kid (respect really isn´t your strong suit, is it? :evil: ) The guitars were introduced in the same year, well before all of our births.
Infact, well, this is NOT modern standards at all, but, buddy holly, first rock guy to make solid body guitars popular, played a strat. Hendrix, who had ridiculously heavy tone for his day, played a strat, pink floyd played strats, hell, even maiden & motley crew used strats.
Tony Iommi had a heavier tone than any listed and played an SG, Pete Townsend from the Who played Pauls and SGs, Eric Clapton played an SG , Jimmy Page played Pauls, Mick Mars (Motley CRÜE, not Crew, BTW) played Charvels (i.e. Strats w/ bridge HB), Maiden´s strats have also been loaded w/ humbuckers since before you were born (Originally Dimarzi Super Distortion, today for the most part Hotrails)...BTW, both maiden and Crüe used Marshalls :fing25:
Oh, BTW, before you try to slam me for citing the SG, let it be known that back then the SG WAS the Les Paul
Point being, back in the day, strats were THE fender for rock, but by modern standards, I'm saying, teles git er dun better. Infact, i think the whole idea of rock being a les paul through a marshall is part of what makes modern rock so friggin generic, not to mention what makes both so stupidly expensive.
Actually, the Telecaster was embraced early on by Country players for it´s ballsy tone...and guess what, back in the ´50s country WAS the equivalent of today´s rock. Rebellious and loud :headbang:
Modern rock on the other hand is for the most part a PRS through a Mesa Rectumfrier w/ the bass dimed, it´s all preamp-gain and slow power chords..."modern" tone has nothing to do with Marshall or a Les Paul...
As far as rock being expensive: I´m sorry, but I´m afraid you may not understand what making music and playing guitar is actually about.....
It´s not about status symbols, or needing "that gear for that tone"....it´s about creative expression, and finding yourself and your own feeling, then becoming able to channel them into notes. Anyone into music for anything else than personal enjoyment is in it for the wrong reasons.....
Gear is absolutely secondary, it only helps you to recreate the TONE you hear in your head....but if you can´t play the song you hear in your head, then you´re up **** creek w/o a paddle, even if you have the tone
i can throw down some seriously hard rock, and i do it all fender. I get compliments on my tone all the time, people think my bands stand out, i think part of that is the fact that I'm NOT using a paul through a marshall, and truth be told, i have a hard time getting my tone, or by my standards - acceptable tone, through either
I don´t doubt this, but that´s far from a reason for it to be gospel .... But that seems to be what you´re after
i guess i'm just trying to point out that you don't need either to have good rock tone, hell, fenders can get great rock tone, better IMO, and i guess i just get frustrated when people say stuff like that
If you have a problem with other´s opinions, like DSS´s post, then maybe you shouldn´t ask for them. Just because you feel that a Fender through a HRD or a BAssman (which BTW is almost IDENTICAL in circuit to a Marshall
) sounds great for rock doesn´t mean someone else has to
So all in all: I´d say it´s just you
Peace
