is the dimebucker the scorching output version of the pearly gates?

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the thing is that despite the fact that the dirty fingers on my washburn v is hot enough and the tone is well, the dirty is maybe not the perfect patner for my g1 peavey envoy, because when the volume is over 5 (lead channel modern mode) it turns really bassy but loses a lot of highs (maybe i'm kind of fail with the EQ for high volumes of volume) and actually the P'up that gived to my peavey the best Thrash tone (thight bass, scooped mids, crisp and present, ear piercing highs and 0 mush) was a pearly gates with a thick A5 (i selled the p'up to get part of the cash needed to buy the DF)

so due to that and to get the output level i want (guys dont suggest me an overdrive 'cause actually an OD don't gives the crisp and push of a high output ceramic bucker) i started seaching what was the tone wise nearest HO Bucker to the A5 pearly gates, and after reading opinions and reviws the Dimebucker seems the solution, EQ acording the DimeBucker has almost the same numbers that the pearly gates, and clean the character seems similar, but you know, the SDUG tone freaks knows everything about tone, and there's nothing they can't clarify, so guys, what you think, is the dimebucker the response, what i need is in another P'up, is a work for the Custom Shop, or i may need a course about Eqing the amp for high volumes?
 
Re: is the dimebucker the scorching output version of the pearly gates?

No really its not.. The rails and the winding make it a very different pickup from he pearly gates. Going off just the B/M/T charts tells you very little. You might like the dimebucker but a hot pearly gates is about the last thing it is.
 
Re: is the dimebucker the scorching output version of the pearly gates?

As a side note amps will emphasize certain frequencies more or less as the volume changes also speakers respond differently at different volumes (so do your ears) Dont be afraid to re-EQ for a different volumes the knobs are there for a reason.
 
Re: is the dimebucker the scorching output version of the pearly gates?

No they are to totally different animals. That being said the Dimebucker has a lot of warmth and character for a ceramic. I don't only use mine for metal but also classic rock - The Who, Stones, Early Zeppelin. The Dimebucker has enough heat to kick in my amps preamp mega hard and produce a wonderful warm natural overdrive. Split is is very cool with an over-wound single coil tone to it, not exactly a P90 but a totally new animal. As far as playing hard rock or metal with the Dimebucker it is game over, searing leads, killer harmonics an all around great shred pickup. However, the Dimebucker is not a one trick pony.
 
Re: is the dimebucker the scorching output version of the pearly gates?

No the Dimebucker has it's own thing going on tone wise from the PG and any other Duncan.
 
Re: is the dimebucker the scorching output version of the pearly gates?

The Dimebucker was originally the SD take on a discontinued Bill Lawrence model.
 
Re: is the dimebucker the scorching output version of the pearly gates?

I thought it was there take on the l500xl, which is not discontinued. Wilde and BLUSA make versions and while IMO, the Wilde one is a far better pickup than the BLUSA, I have been purchasing and using the Wilde l500 for a good long while.

The Wilde one, made until recently by the man Bill Lawrence is a very good pickup. Having met Bill and been to his workshop, I was very impressed, and as such, having maybe 4 sets of l500xls, a couple sets of l90s and some miscellaneous other pickups by him, I have never felt like I needed a dimebucker as I have what it was based on.

Those pickups come from a very different heritage IMO than SDs in that SD is largely about creating cool vintage and (with some of the newer offerings) killer modern sounds. One of the impressions I got was that BL would have been happy making an electrically and sonically perfect full frequency pickup that was a blank canvas. It seems to me as if SD is about getting you the color you desire on your tone, and BL's goal was to give you everything your guitar could produce so you could sculpt it further down the line with either fine tuning in the guitar with capacitors and resistors, or just dialing it in at the amp. (I am not certain on the SD philosophy, but I am certain on BL's there as we discussed that very thing.)

I have not played the dimebucker, but I would guess some of the BL heritage might still be in there which would require a different approach on your amp/ how and what controls you install.
 
Re: is the dimebucker the scorching output version of the pearly gates?

so well, compilating all said, the Dimebucker has some of the sizzle of the pearly, can be an enjoyable pickup for that kind of sound, but actually a hotter pearly gates is the last thing it is, so i had to ask, is out there a pickup as hot or hotter than the distortion but with all or most of the tonal characteristics of the pearly gates or i should start to keep money to call the custom shop for the P'up i want?
 
Re: is the dimebucker the scorching output version of the pearly gates?

Hotter than a distortion? Black Winter sounds like it would be a good choice, though I haven't played a pearly gates. It has a cool sizzle, is hot and is fairly flat eq wise.
 
Re: is the dimebucker the scorching output version of the pearly gates?

No. Not at all.
 
Re: is the dimebucker the scorching output version of the pearly gates?

Sounds like you should contact the custom shop.
 
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