youngthrasher9
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Re: is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
You definitely need to check the wiring.
You definitely need to check the wiring.
is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
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theycallmegio
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Re: is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
here is the wiring. I can take more pics up close of anything specific.
Thanks for the help.
here is the wiring. I can take more pics up close of anything specific.
Thanks for the help.
misterwhizzy
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Re: is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
I had a Distortion in my Les Paul, and the highs were way too screaming and bright. I put in a Custom and was much, much happier. To answer your question, to my ears, the Distortion was brighter.
I had a Distortion in my Les Paul, and the highs were way too screaming and bright. I put in a Custom and was much, much happier. To answer your question, to my ears, the Distortion was brighter.
Luke Duke
PRSlustologist
Re: is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
Ok Gio that black wire insulation with the red/white wire taped back that is coming into the route do you see that? That's the leads from the custom. It LOOKS like it is wired to your neck volume pot instead of your bridge volume pot. Is it supposed to be? What that means is that the top two volume/tone controls are on the Duncan and the bottom volume/tone on are the stock neck pickup AND if the switch hasn't been tampered with the bridge position is on alone when the toggle is up or in the "rhythm" setting instead of "treble" setting.
Luke
here is the wiring. I can take more pics up close of anything specific.
Thanks for the help.
Ok Gio that black wire insulation with the red/white wire taped back that is coming into the route do you see that? That's the leads from the custom. It LOOKS like it is wired to your neck volume pot instead of your bridge volume pot. Is it supposed to be? What that means is that the top two volume/tone controls are on the Duncan and the bottom volume/tone on are the stock neck pickup AND if the switch hasn't been tampered with the bridge position is on alone when the toggle is up or in the "rhythm" setting instead of "treble" setting.
Luke
theycallmegio
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Re: is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
no the bridge position is definitely on when the switch is turned to 'treble'
no the bridge position is definitely on when the switch is turned to 'treble'
frankfalbo
In Fluence Y'all
Re: is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
Have you tried untaping those red and white wires and touching them to ground yet? (Solder joint on the back of the pot where green and bare wires are going)
Have you tried untaping those red and white wires and touching them to ground yet? (Solder joint on the back of the pot where green and bare wires are going)
Luke Duke
PRSlustologist
Re: is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
Judging from the way the route is facing the guitar's neck is on the left. That makes the top two controls active in some way when the pickup is "on". Are the top tone knob and volume knob at 10?
Judging from the way the route is facing the guitar's neck is on the left. That makes the top two controls active in some way when the pickup is "on". Are the top tone knob and volume knob at 10?
King IzzO)))
Ultimate Kitten Puncher
Re: is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
Yeah, pots are upside down, usually the top set are the neck pickup. Looks correct other than that. I dunno dude.
Yeah, pots are upside down, usually the top set are the neck pickup. Looks correct other than that. I dunno dude.
King IzzO)))
Ultimate Kitten Puncher
Re: is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
I just noticed, if that is a stock Gibson neck pickup it's wired wrong, black should be ground, green and white together, and red is hot (I think). That could explain everything. If I'm right what you think is the bridge pickup is actually the neck pickup with its coils out of phase. And what you thought was the neck pickup is actually the custom in the bridge. You need to rewire it. I'll look up the gibbo code and post back when I get home later.
I just noticed, if that is a stock Gibson neck pickup it's wired wrong, black should be ground, green and white together, and red is hot (I think). That could explain everything. If I'm right what you think is the bridge pickup is actually the neck pickup with its coils out of phase. And what you thought was the neck pickup is actually the custom in the bridge. You need to rewire it. I'll look up the gibbo code and post back when I get home later.
GilmourD
Burritotoneologist
Re: is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
I agree... Something looks jacked up with the wiring on this guitar.
Who wired this up again?
I agree... Something looks jacked up with the wiring on this guitar.
Who wired this up again?
Re: is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
The guitar I use a DD in has big strings and a basswood body, and was actually my first guitar. The kind of stuff I played on it was Slipknot and Disturbed (lots of palm muting and chunky riffage.) and I thought it sounded great. Dark without being muddy, with perfect treble and mid response. I suck at explaining things so sorry if this doesnt help.
The guitar I use a DD in has big strings and a basswood body, and was actually my first guitar. The kind of stuff I played on it was Slipknot and Disturbed (lots of palm muting and chunky riffage.) and I thought it sounded great. Dark without being muddy, with perfect treble and mid response. I suck at explaining things so sorry if this doesnt help.
Dark Order Lord
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Re: is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
Ok,ok whats with calling the DD bright and shrill....? How is it that I had MJ make me a custom shop Tyrannotitan that is brighter than the regular DD? Ceramics are aggressive and alnicos are nice. Thats the difference as I play thrash metal straight into a Marshall, large thick ceramic is the way to go for me.
Ok,ok whats with calling the DD bright and shrill....? How is it that I had MJ make me a custom shop Tyrannotitan that is brighter than the regular DD? Ceramics are aggressive and alnicos are nice. Thats the difference as I play thrash metal straight into a Marshall, large thick ceramic is the way to go for me.
King IzzO)))
Ultimate Kitten Puncher
Re: is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
Yep, if that neck pickup is a gibson it's wired wrong. The red should be the hot going to the input on the pot, green and white together, black and bare to the back of the pot. Currently it's wired like a Duncan. The reversed sets of controls would also contribute to your confusion here, the top set should be the neck pickup, bottom should be the bridge. I'm guessing they are reversed to the switch as well.
Do this, put the switch in the treble position and take a screwdriver and tap the pole pieces on each pickup, I'm guessing it's gonna be the neck. You need to get it rewired correctly.
...I agree, the DD nor the Custom are what I'd call shrill.
Yep, if that neck pickup is a gibson it's wired wrong. The red should be the hot going to the input on the pot, green and white together, black and bare to the back of the pot. Currently it's wired like a Duncan. The reversed sets of controls would also contribute to your confusion here, the top set should be the neck pickup, bottom should be the bridge. I'm guessing they are reversed to the switch as well.
Do this, put the switch in the treble position and take a screwdriver and tap the pole pieces on each pickup, I'm guessing it's gonna be the neck. You need to get it rewired correctly.
...I agree, the DD nor the Custom are what I'd call shrill.
Re: is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
Both of those pups (Custom and Dist) can have a very shrill or brittle top end. Of course each of us hears and likes things differently. But from what you say, you are definitely not a ceramic magnet kinda guy. Neither am I, but I love both of those pups with the right magnets.
The Custom with an A8 magnet is a great all around pup and can handle just about any style of music. It's an exceptional bridge pup in an SG.
The Distortion is one of my favorite pups, but with the stock ceramic mag it is just way too shrill for me. I tried just about every magnet available in it. If you like lots of treble and meaty power, but without the shrillness, an A8 works wonders. That's still a bit bright for my taste so I have found that an A2 in the DD is perfect...great rich tonal textures, meaty and solid, very strong mids, and just enough bite to knock a few panties off. But with NO shrillness or brittleness in the treble. Guaranteed to not make the eardrums bleed while it punches you in the gut.
But DON'T give up on the greatest pups made (Duncans) just because YOU don't like ceramic magnets.
Both of those pups (Custom and Dist) can have a very shrill or brittle top end. Of course each of us hears and likes things differently. But from what you say, you are definitely not a ceramic magnet kinda guy. Neither am I, but I love both of those pups with the right magnets.
The Custom with an A8 magnet is a great all around pup and can handle just about any style of music. It's an exceptional bridge pup in an SG.
The Distortion is one of my favorite pups, but with the stock ceramic mag it is just way too shrill for me. I tried just about every magnet available in it. If you like lots of treble and meaty power, but without the shrillness, an A8 works wonders. That's still a bit bright for my taste so I have found that an A2 in the DD is perfect...great rich tonal textures, meaty and solid, very strong mids, and just enough bite to knock a few panties off. But with NO shrillness or brittleness in the treble. Guaranteed to not make the eardrums bleed while it punches you in the gut.
But DON'T give up on the greatest pups made (Duncans) just because YOU don't like ceramic magnets.
Myaccount876
Amira-Maker
Re: is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
Whoever wired this - wired it wrong exactly as King Izz0))) described it. If it was a tech you paid, get your money back, and find someone else to do it if you can't yourself.
Whoever wired this - wired it wrong exactly as King Izz0))) described it. If it was a tech you paid, get your money back, and find someone else to do it if you can't yourself.
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Re: is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
I love both the Custom AND the Distortion. But I also love Ceramic. Nothing has that scream and cut like they do in the highs. I think an A8 would take away the things I LOVE ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE PUPS. NOT THAT IT MIGHT NOT MAKE A GOOD SOUND FOR SOME SITUATIONS.
I love both the Custom AND the Distortion. But I also love Ceramic. Nothing has that scream and cut like they do in the highs. I think an A8 would take away the things I LOVE ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE PUPS. NOT THAT IT MIGHT NOT MAKE A GOOD SOUND FOR SOME SITUATIONS.
theycallmegio
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Re: is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
I put the pickup selector in the treble position and tapped the bridge pick up, it's the bridge.
The neck pickup is a duncan jazz
I put the pickup selector in the treble position and tapped the bridge pick up, it's the bridge.
The neck pickup is a duncan jazz
King IzzO)))
Ultimate Kitten Puncher
Re: is the duncan distortion darker than the duncan custom?
Did you replace it too? The grey insulation is what had me thinking it was a Gibson, they're the only manufacturer I know of that uses grey four conductor cable. Either way, glad you got it all worked out.
Did you replace it too? The grey insulation is what had me thinking it was a Gibson, they're the only manufacturer I know of that uses grey four conductor cable. Either way, glad you got it all worked out.