Is there a delay that will suppress the 1st note?

[VinceT]

If searching online, Artie, look for the term “kill-dry” - depending on the pedal, it’s not always the same as “100% wet”.

The TCElectronic flashback has a dip switch inside to make it kill-dry, and I think you’ll find other delay pedals do to - side-benefit is that those pedals will also have analogue dry-through, so you clean signal doesn’t get processed.

My TRex Replica delay has two outs, one dry and one wet - it’s up on Reverb at the moment (cough, cough)


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[Aceman]

I'll just throw in my "Yes"

 

[Francois]

A pedal like the Vapor Trail has an output for the delay only. If you use that, instead of the normal output jack, you get 100% wet signal: only the echo. This is great for sending the echoes to their own amps or other processing.

Yes you can do crazy things with the VT like sending the delay repeats to an airplane Flanger + a weird reverb while keeping your original signal clean.

 

[Artie]

If searching online, Artie, look for the term "kill-dry" . . .

Cool. Just learned a new term. Thanks for all the info guys. Today, I'm going to try out my Yamaha's to see if they do this. If I can avoid spending money, that would be good. Especially after the holidays. I'll report back.

 

[GuitarStv]

What are you doing that requires the wet signal only?

 

[Artie]

What are you doing that requires the wet signal only?

I was afraid someone was going to ask me that. :naughty:

I didn't want to say anything until I got my new project all wired up and tested. But I can give you a hint. I'm wiring an LP with a stereo output jack. Tip will get one pickup system, and the ring will get another. I want to be able to route one system dry, and the other wet, for two reasons. One: I can control the wet signal with the volume on the guitar, and two: the wet signal will have a completely different tonal character than the main.

And of course, this will work on any effect I use. Imagine wah-wah only on the reverb trails. Or phasor, or flanger. You get the idea.

 

[Mincer]

BTW, I wrote a blog about using that special jack on the Vapor Trail..you can see it here.

 

[Artie]

BTW, I wrote a blog about using that special jack on the Vapor Trail..you can see it here.

You're a good salesman. I see one in my future.

 

[GuitarStv]

I was afraid someone was going to ask me that. :naughty:

I didn't want to say anything until I got my new project all wired up and tested. But I can give you a hint. I'm wiring an LP with a stereo output jack. Tip will get one pickup system, and the ring will get another. I want to be able to route one system dry, and the other wet, for two reasons. One: I can control the wet signal with the volume on the guitar, and two: the wet signal will have a completely different tonal character than the main.

And of course, this will work on any effect I use. Imagine wah-wah only on the reverb trails. Or phasor, or flanger. You get the idea.

Oh. Cool.

The old SD Deja Vu has an effect loop for this sort of thing (the effects are applied only to the delayed repeats). It can be fun to play around with.

 

[Mincer]

You're a good salesman. I see one in my future.

Ha, that is never my point. I don't get paid to sell stuff. But it something that I have studied before.

 

[Artie]

The old SD Deja Vu has an effect loop for this sort of thing . . .

I'll probably be running through a little Mackie 402VLZ4. It's cool little mixer where both of the main inputs can be switched to be guitar-centric. And it cost about the same as one pickup. It's a nice little unit.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/402VLZ4--mackie-402vlz4-4-channel-mixer

 

[Artie]

Ha, that is never my point. I don't get paid to sell stuff. But it something that I have studied before.

I know man. That's why I did the "smiley". Nonetheless, you provide good info.

 

[vmbarrera]

MXR echoplex will do that.

 

[Artie]

Is that the Dunlop EP103? MXR appears under the Jim Dunlop page, but there's no actual Echoplex with the MXR name on it.

 

[vmbarrera]

Is that the Dunlop EP103? MXR appears under the Jim Dunlop page, but there's no actual Echoplex with the MXR name on it.

Yes, sorry, that's what I meant. Jim Dunlop Echoplex.

 

[Artie]

No prob man. I'm checking it out. (With the rest.)

Thanks.

 

[NegativeEase]

Anything with a blend knob

 

[Artie]

Well, if I end up needing to buy something, the Vapor Trail has a definite edge over the EchoPlex. I was just perusing the manual for the EchoPlex and you have to jump through some odd hoops to get that functionality. It's just plug-'n-play on the Vapor Trail.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

Anything with a blend knob

Not every blend knob works that way, I think. Some only control the level of the effect, without attenuating the dry signal.
I believe the Dunlop Echoplex may be one of them, if it's like the old tape Echoplexes.

EDIT: When an effect has a control labeled "Mix," then it probably can give you wet-only.
But one labeled Blend wouldn't necessarily do that - some might, but others might not.
I recommend checking the manuals before making a final choice based on this particular parameter.

 

[Artie]

I'm still hoping that one of my current devices will do this, but I got caught up in other things and didn't get around to it today. (Well, yesterday now.)