Is this a Tim Shaw? Velvet Brick?
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allbutromeo
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Re: Is this a Tim Shaw? Velvet Brick?
Definitely one of the two correct nameplates, but I've never seen one with two screw coils and very few with double black coils.
Definitely one of the two correct nameplates, but I've never seen one with two screw coils and very few with double black coils.
Discharged
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Everything in this p'up says "Asian". Are you sure that reading is from both functioning bobbins? The fact that comes with a double-thick ceramic magnet makes me think it actually is a very common Asian 15K bridge p'up.
What's the polepiece spread? If 50mm or 52mm then it"s Asian.
/Peter
Everything in this p'up says "Asian". Are you sure that reading is from both functioning bobbins? The fact that comes with a double-thick ceramic magnet makes me think it actually is a very common Asian 15K bridge p'up.
What's the polepiece spread? If 50mm or 52mm then it"s Asian.
/Peter
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ItsaBass
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Re: Is this a Tim Shaw? Velvet Brick?
I have seen double black neck pickups in Sonex Deluxes that were double slug...and ones that were slug+screw...but never one that was double screw.
It's not a Dirty Fingers...though it looks like one from the top. DFs had different mags and baseplate, and weren't used in that model. DFs were very similar to a double-screw 500T, around 16K, and often with two sets of braided leads (for splitting).
There's no denying it is what is stamped on the back of it...but it certainly is bit of an oddity.
$1 start, no reserve, very good pix, and I'll bet you get some good dough for it.
P.S. I'm actually very interested to mess with it myself. Three mags, including a double thick ceramic, two rows of screws, and a low amount of wire. It's obviously designed to be a neck pickup, but I am thinking bridge pickup for my tastes.
I have seen double black neck pickups in Sonex Deluxes that were double slug...and ones that were slug+screw...but never one that was double screw.
It's not a Dirty Fingers...though it looks like one from the top. DFs had different mags and baseplate, and weren't used in that model. DFs were very similar to a double-screw 500T, around 16K, and often with two sets of braided leads (for splitting).
There's no denying it is what is stamped on the back of it...but it certainly is bit of an oddity.
$1 start, no reserve, very good pix, and I'll bet you get some good dough for it.
P.S. I'm actually very interested to mess with it myself. Three mags, including a double thick ceramic, two rows of screws, and a low amount of wire. It's obviously designed to be a neck pickup, but I am thinking bridge pickup for my tastes.
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EmiAba
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Re: Is this a Tim Shaw? Velvet Brick?
It's not a tim shaw nor a dirty finger. To me it seems a Frankenstein pickup built by someone taking parts from different pickups. Or an asian copy of velvet bricks. I saw only one time (about 15 years ago) a velvet brick on an old gibson "the SG". It was Zebra open coil humbucker with screw pole pieces on the black side and flat pole pieces on the white side with 3 adjustable mounting screws - two on one side (with 2 separate mounting legs) and one on the other. I don't remember exactly but if I am not wrong it was around 13 DCR.
It's not a tim shaw nor a dirty finger. To me it seems a Frankenstein pickup built by someone taking parts from different pickups. Or an asian copy of velvet bricks. I saw only one time (about 15 years ago) a velvet brick on an old gibson "the SG". It was Zebra open coil humbucker with screw pole pieces on the black side and flat pole pieces on the white side with 3 adjustable mounting screws - two on one side (with 2 separate mounting legs) and one on the other. I don't remember exactly but if I am not wrong it was around 13 DCR.
BlueSnMettle
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Re: Is this a Tim Shaw? Velvet Brick?
Sonex Deluxe are also known as Velvet Brick. It's Gibson.
Sonex Deluxe are also known as Velvet Brick. It's Gibson.
JeffBob
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Re: Is this a Tim Shaw? Velvet Brick?
It seems to be. Or a rare double black Velvet Brick? So what is the Tim Shaw pickup?
Also, before i forget....THANKS GUYS☺
It seems to be. Or a rare double black Velvet Brick? So what is the Tim Shaw pickup?
Also, before i forget....THANKS GUYS☺
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EmiAba
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Re: Is this a Tim Shaw? Velvet Brick?
Tim shaw was a Gibson employee who was tasked with creating a PAF replica at the end of 70s. First official appearance in Les Paul Heritage series after May 1980 but some lucky guys found them already installed on Les Paul Standard at the beginning of 1980. DCR around 7.3, penny copper colored wire on the bobbins, white plastic spacers, base plates embossed with patent number same as the later T-tops but with an ink stamped code, black and white lead wires coming from the bobbins and UOA5 magnets. They became the main pickups Gibson used from 1980 till 1988 (when they were replaced by Bill Lawrence HB-R, HB-L)
Tim shaw was a Gibson employee who was tasked with creating a PAF replica at the end of 70s. First official appearance in Les Paul Heritage series after May 1980 but some lucky guys found them already installed on Les Paul Standard at the beginning of 1980. DCR around 7.3, penny copper colored wire on the bobbins, white plastic spacers, base plates embossed with patent number same as the later T-tops but with an ink stamped code, black and white lead wires coming from the bobbins and UOA5 magnets. They became the main pickups Gibson used from 1980 till 1988 (when they were replaced by Bill Lawrence HB-R, HB-L)
JeffBob
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Re: Is this a Tim Shaw? Velvet Brick?
Thanks for the info!
I'd like to sell it (I'm unloading a few actually). But I don't know what it's worth or 100%sure what it is.....so unless someone, of you here, want to pm me I'll keep sitting on it.
Thanks for the info!
I'd like to sell it (I'm unloading a few actually). But I don't know what it's worth or 100%sure what it is.....so unless someone, of you here, want to pm me I'll keep sitting on it.
ItsaBass
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Re: Is this a Tim Shaw? Velvet Brick?
E-Bay with $10 start, no reserve, as long an auction period as possible (10 days, I think) will tell you exactly what it is worth that week.
I want it, but I wouldn't even know what to offer you for it. I'd rather follow it on E-Bay and see.
E-Bay with $10 start, no reserve, as long an auction period as possible (10 days, I think) will tell you exactly what it is worth that week.
I want it, but I wouldn't even know what to offer you for it. I'd rather follow it on E-Bay and see.
