Is this the "golden age" of delay?

Re: Is this the "golden age" of delay?

briggleman said:
Here is my rub with what I highlighted in bold above........ YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT FACT! Its your opinion that 95% have not heard a tape unit. Afraid not, Heard them, played through them, and just recently helped rebuild one. At 53 and picking up a guitar when I was in fourth grade..... I have heard tape units. Honest to God.....No biggie. They did what they did. And to push this OPINION even more, it was the faults and mechanical inconsistencies that at first were a pain in the A$$ and then they said, wait a minute, that sounds pretty neat, lets keep that. We are doing the same thing today..... and faster! Golden age and experimentation is like Murphys law..... it just keeps doubling every year now.

Now I understand your thinking when talking about the 80's introducing more devices, better equipment, and taking delay to another level....if that is your thinking, yes golden age... but also expensive for the common player. Today it is golden because we can now buy those effects so much cheaper, more talent is coming of age and doing things I never thought of back then.

Now as for Vasshu's statement about studio and rack units in pedal form.... OH HELL YES, SHUT THE BEDROOM DOOR, SO damm true! And what a great thing to get that in the hands of bedroom players, regular bands, your everyday Joe and see what they can do with it. I am amazed by some of the YouTube videos that are out there. Pedal boards full of effects I could never imagine when I was in my early 20's in the eighties.

Look at the bigger picture my friends!!!!
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Calm down brother...There is no need to get up in arms here and start an argument.

First read what I wrote that you highlighted then read what you said...

I said "Truth is I'm betting 95% of the guys fighting about the tape issue have never even plugged into one and really have no idea what they are talking about."

Ok, so first I said "I'm betting"...that does not at all imply fact.

Second, I said "...never plugged into" you said heard...big difference there.

Third, the tape echo thing is only one very small part of this discussion.

You always seem to come into these threads with your claws out...no need for that.

It is all an opinion based discussion here, nothing more...nothing less.
 
Re: Is this the "golden age" of delay?

Come on, TGWIF - in every thread I've seen you contribute where you're knowledgeable you've made sweepingly dismissive statements about everyone who disagrees with you and then played innocent when guys get riled. Adding "I'm betting" to a statement like that does nothing to take the edge off of it.

That's why I haven't posted in this thread - I already know you'll show up and argue that tape is the only way and nothing recent can possibly be cool until everyone else turns out the lights and leaves.
 
Re: Is this the "golden age" of delay?

ParameterMan said:
Come on, TGWIF - in every thread I've seen you contribute where you're knowledgeable you've made sweepingly dismissive statements about everyone who disagrees with you and then played innocent when guys get riled. Adding "I'm betting" to a statement like that does nothing to take the edge off of it.

That's why I haven't posted in this thread - I already know you'll show up and argue that tape is the only way and nothing recent can possibly be cool until
everyone else turns out the lights and leaves.
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WTF?!

I'm not arguing for tape or anything else.

In fact I keep saying that...

I simply stated that IMO the Golden Era of delay units was in the 80's, not now then defended that statement by saying why I felt that way.

I could care less about anybodies rig aside from my own and truth is I could care less about delay...I almost never use it as I feel it is more of a crutch than anything else but on those times that I need delay I have my personal favs as to what I like to use, which FWIW is sometimes tape, sometimes analog BBD and sometimes digital.

I dunno what I did to some of you guys around here...I thought this was a discussion forum, maybe I was wrong...
 
Re: Is this the "golden age" of delay?

TGWIF's comments are being taken out of context. You guys are attacking him for things other people stated about him instead of what he actually stated himself. Some of you need to give your heads a shake and re-read the thread in a more subjective manner.

Beyond that, the dude is as entitled to his opinion as anyone on here... some people are just taking things a little too seriously.
 
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Re: Is this the "golden age" of delay?

Dr. Vegetable said:
I do love my Carbon Copy. It is a classic design and a simple unit that has a few tricks up its sleeve. The metallic green is cool, too. It will always have a place in my pedal board. But it only goes up to 600ms, and I do kinda wish the modulation rate control was accessible from outside the box. I also find the regeneration to be touchy - it really runs away if I turn it past 1:00 or so.

Carbon Copy covers the analog side, but for some stuff a clean (dare I say sterile?) digital unit might be better suited.

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One of my lead guitarists modded his and put a pot on the outside to control the modulation. It's nice to have the ability to change that in the middle of a set. He get's some great slapback effects, better than the ones suggested by MXR. I'm thinking of asking him to do my as well.
 
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I think I need a crutch (effect) for almost everything I play!:1:

Sorry I pressed TGWIF love button. Its easy to do.:naughty:

Was not trying to start an argument, claws were not extended at all. Just trying to understand your concept of Golden Age. It seems to mean something different to different folks.

As I was thinking about this more, I tried to analogize the subject and say,... compare it to dance, When was the golden age of the dance musical...... Gene Kelly, Fred Astaire, Ginger Rodgers or was it Paula Abdul!:)

I just think, and here I go thinking again,:scratchch we live in such a great time! Manufactures are producing some amazing pedals,..... effects, and the internet allowing us to share and communicate like never before. I take advantage of these forums for ideas, new products, reviews and DISCUSSIONS.

Now everyone has their own idea on Tone, and its subjective to say the very least. Vasshu's own post rings true on that statement ".... its a discussion that has no end"

So.... to put it simply.... TGWIF thinks the 80's were the Golden Age.... and that is okay by me. However, I am hoping this Golden Age keeps on going.... I love where it is heading.

Brad
 
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some_dude said:
Beyond that, the dude is as entitled to his opinion as anyone on here... some people are just taking things a little too seriously.
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There's a difference between having an opinion and turning every thread you enter into a prolonged drudge-match. I personally think TGWIF has great taste; I've gotten really tired of reading through threads where he decides he's the expert and all other comers are noobs.
 
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I freely admit I'm cranky today.

But yeah, let's go ahead and have yet another thread full of unrepressed negativity. Pedal makers are coming out with all sorts of awesome gadgets but there's not way any of them could be any good or be enjoyed by anyone who has a brain. Screw those idiots who like making cool sounds rather than scoring epic man points by playing real man's guitar straight into an amp. They're definitely idiots that need help. Yep.
 
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Re: Is this the "golden age" of delay?

I had no idea you guys felt this way.

I am by no means an expert on anything...just a man with an opinion, and you know what they say about that!

if you really dislike my opinions or posts that badly might I suggest finding a new forum or at the very least not reading my posts??

I dunno...I think I'm pretty level headed...

Just remember...it's only the internet.
 
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