I've gone to the darkside again... new Gibson

That90'sGuy

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I met an online guy at Guitar Center in Orange to try out his Gibson Les Paul Classic goldtop and it wasn't quite what I was looking for (I had a money order ready to go, shame there was just one little flaw I couldn't overlook). I tried a few different Gibsons off the shelf: mostly a Firebird and a few Explorers. The guitars I was picking up were less than perfect: muddy unplugged sound, no sustain, couldn't stay in tune, etc.

Typically the gear snob in me says to "go custom shop" with about anything I'm looking at. Well, after two experiences with custom shop Gibsons, I learned that with a higher price, you don't necessarily get quality that's leaps and bounds above the standard stuff. My fiance's uncle has an Epiphone Les Paul Special II that will simply blow most people away (believe it or not). I got to play a DTM (that's Dave Thomas McNaught) that was insanely expensive, 4k I think? It looked great, was crafted perfectly, but completely dead unplugged.

I've been looking for a new guitar that's really different than what I have already. My PRSi are really great guitars, but I missed that lowend humbucker chunk and really thick humbucker lead tone. Everything points towards a Gibson Les Paul, but I hate being typical when it comes to gear and I like easy upper fret access (typically why I gravitate towards doublecuts). I've built my tone over the years around barebones guitars with mahogany bodies and necks with rosewood fretboards... it's always been a combination I've just felt comfortable with, I know the sound properties well and can usually match them with the right pickups easily. This is why the Explorer always looked good to me. I'm not a big 80's fan, but they're different.

I've learned what to look for in guitars over the years: balance of tone from top to bottom, unplugged clarity, sustain (play a chord and hold it to get a feel for how it sustains), good setup (can't stand fret buzz or dead spots, it's a pet peeve of mine), good weight (not too light where it can sacrifice tone, but not too heavy where it becomes fatiguing) and resonance. This one standard production model Explorer just "has it". Clarity, lowend chunk, nice balanced tone, sustain, good weight, balances well and the stock pickups were fitting exactly what I was look for (a big surprise because I was planning on trying Wolfetones for my next humbucker guitar)... for under a grand out the door I couldn't say no (I was considering spending up to $1800 for a nice guitar).

It's not a korina Hamer USA Standard like I was originally looking at, but I'd certainly like to put it up against one to see how it'd fare, this is my cherry stained natural mahogany grained beauty:
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How does it sound? Very thick, smooth and sweet through my Shiva's cleans and when in overdrive it's fat with a lot of punch and sustain... great lead guitar like I was looking for.
 
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I don't think I've ever seen a red explorer before (all have been black) and that looks pretty sick \m/
 
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Sweet. That's the exact finish I'd choose on an Explorer. If you decide to put nickel pickups in it, I've got 2 for sale that totally fit that guitar's bridge position....a nickel 59B and nickel Custom 4.
 
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yeah man! way to go! pointies RULE :bigthumb: :laugh2:

I like the cherry ones..and amazing how well the 500T/496 do in those, eh? Explorers are a little darker, and mostly low end, low mids, and the 500T really is a good match for them. Not perfect, but real nice. The 496 I think could be a little fuller in the mids...but still pretty good.

My white 2K6 was just fantastic...I wish I had the means to have kept it (and the Destroyer)..it was one of the best guitars I've ever owned (and lord knows I've owned a bunch :laugh2: ). Certainly right up there with my R8 and Hamer in the overall sense.

And I believe if that one is a 2K6 as well..it arrived in the same shipment to Orange as my white one did (thats where I bought mine)
 
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Wow. I think I've just decided that's the only finish for an Explorer.
 
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I'd like to get an explorer at some point, natural with a white pickgaurd if I can find one. Cherry looks great too but I don't want any more red guitars.

Congrats on your purchase!
 
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very nice... you still got your PRSi too?
 
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Congrats!! I love mine. That's beautiful btw.
 
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Pointy guitars! You kids are going to put an eye out!
 
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That's really nice. I love how Explorers hang on me--they are really comfortable to play--more than you'd think.

Enjoy!

Bill
 
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That really is a beautiful guitar Chris. I can't help but keep coming back to this thread and looking at it.
 
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TGWIF: just trying to follow in your footsteps with strange guitars ;)

Gearjoneser: thanks for the offer, but I've realized over time "if it isn't broke, don't fix it". Lollars, while great pickups, didn't work better than Classic '57s in my LP/SG Custom... I loved the stock Gibson P-90s in my R0 LP Special DC, at this point I have faith in Gibson in matching the right pickups for the right guitar (even though the 490/498s in my LP Standard sucked). For right now, ceramic or not, these pups are kicking arse and staying :smokin:

Scott_F: you're probably right, I think I've almost impaled myself a couple of times because I never realized just how extended that lower bout was :blackeye: ... it's part of the "learning curve" :27:

Jeff_B: that's pretty cool that we probably had Explorers from the same shipment :) They had a few duds there, but I was happy that they stocked a decent amount of Explorers so I did find one that was made on a "good day"... that has never happened for me with a Gibson, so needless to say I'm excited about it. :banana: And yes, you're the point master :bowdown:

ParameterMan: I'm glad you like it, it was the only finish I liked besides the natural finish (reminded me of the much more expensive korina finishes). :) Goldtop and wine red are the two colors I generally like the most in guitars, so the really dark cherry stain immediately caught my eye. I really love being able to see the woodgrain in guitars and I love that everything down to the streaks in the rosewood fretboard is perfectly straight.

Boogie_Bill, Innocent_Bystander, cream123, Tony_H, D-EJ915: thanks for the kind words guys, glad you like it :dance:

Ez74: yep, the PRSi aren't going anywhere :) Love those guitars too much to think of selling them. At this point, I really love the tones I'm getting and getting rid of any guitars at this point would lead to massive regrets... I'm sure of it.

JOLLY: haha, I'm just getting you back for all those G.A.S. inducing pictures of your Gretsch White Falcon :32:... so here you go :fing25: :

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I forgot how much I missed the '60s slim taper neck. Most of my older Gibsons had 'em and they're easy to get around on.... soloing is so much easier than on the McCarties I have, so this is going to kick on lead parts.

On a completely separate ramble, I was able to play a Fender Supersonic and VHT Deliverance; I'm just glad that they didn't do anything for me, it reaffirms that the Shiva is the perfect amp for me :)
 
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So you're liking the 500T in it? The one I have in mine is super duper hot man. It's radioactive. I'm thinking about throwing a set of Phat Cats in my explorer....either that or a Demon/Jazz. However, I do like the way the 500T sounds in my V. It's the best I've ever heard one sound.
 
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So you're liking the 500T in it? The one I have in mine is super duper hot man. It's radioactive. I'm thinking about throwing a set of Phat Cats in my explorer....either that or a Demon/Jazz. However, I do like the way the 500T sounds in my V. It's the best I've ever heard one sound.

The 500T probably doesn't work in a lot of amps due to its hot nature. For some reason, it really likes my Shiva. My Shiva is a generally smooth, refined Marshall. The 500T pushes the living heck out of it and it makes for quite possibly the fattest, biggest crunch I've ever heard come out of an amp before. The interesting thing is that while it's extremely hot, it does leads extremely well... just fat with a lot of blossom to the notes, exactly what I was looking for. I was expecting it to be a compressed mess, but it cuts through with a lot of clarity, so I'm pleasantly surprised. I bought the guitar expecting to replace the pickups, but I'm liking what I'm hearing, so for once, they just might stay. :27:

The neck keeps its clarity under a lot of gain, so that is definitely staying as well. I like that through the clean channel of the Shiva it gets some really nice jazz tones, which you would never expect looking at this weird pointy thing :D

I used to have EMGs a long time ago and with their ridiculously hot nature, cleans were always sacrificed... I'm not sure why these pickups still have good cleans with how hot they are, but they're very nice and I don't think I'd want to change them out at this point. I'm a P-90 fanatic, mind you, so I'm used to hot and raunchy; these humbuckers feel right at home :)
 
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Very nice indeed Chris!

The grain is simply killer and you can relly tell when you look at the back!

I still have to choke up the cash one day and get an Explorer and a V for the Moderne to play with...Until then I will just drool at yours!
 
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