I've got a love/hate thing with the Vintage 30

[kmcguitars]

Re: I've got a love/hate thing with the Vintage 30

I just did some sound Clips with the new home brew. I miked the V30 in my 2x12 closed back cab. I like the sound if the speaker, But I can't seem to find the sweet spot on it with the mic? 1st I used a SM57 Sounded bright and bodiless off axis ,on the cone and a foot of so off the cone? So I broke out the large diaphragm condenser studio projects mic. A Lil' more body to the tone now but still a Lil' bright for my tastes. So now... Looks like I have a love/Hate thing with V30's.:smack:

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: I've got a love/hate thing with the Vintage 30

I just did some sound Clips with the new home brew. I miked the V30 in my 2x12 closed back cab. I like the sound if the speaker, But I can't seem to find the sweet spot on it with the mic? 1st I used a SM57 Sounded bright and bodiless off axis ,on the cone and a foot of so off the cone? So I broke out the large diaphragm condenser studio projects mic. A Lil' more body to the tone now but still a Lil' bright for my tastes. So now... Looks like I have a love/Hate thing with V30's.:smack:

Miking guitar speakers is so tough. I mean, if my ear was a microphone and I put it 6" away from a speaker that was being being pummeled with rock guitar tone, I'd be hearing that speaker in a way I'd never do in real life.

One of the great things about Jimmy Page's guitar tone had to do with the way he miked his speaker. He'd use the room. So he'd record with maybe one mike close up and one further away to get the ambience and natural tone of his amp the way his ear would actually hear it.

I hate the tone of a speaker picked up by a mike set close to the speaker.

That tone has ZERO in commen with the way that anyone in thier right mind would actually be listening to a speaker.

 

[SoCalSteve]

Re: I've got a love/hate thing with the Vintage 30

UPDATE:
My initial impressions were off base due to my naivete' regarding new speakers. I just spent the last hour or more playing through this speaker and was really loving it. Here's why: I ran a Deftones cd (heavy low-tuned bassy stuff) through it for a couple of hours this morning and I guess it started loosening it up because the nasal tone I talked about has almost gone away (not fully but definitely toned down). I'm actually using more midrange with this speaker (7) because it's so nice and smooth. I really like the smooth distorted tones I'm getting. I plan on running a cd through it for an hour or two a day (providing no one's home!) for a few more days to further loosen it up.

 

[Marcel]

Re: I've got a love/hate thing with the Vintage 30

I play them with much mids too... I love this abit "wet" sound in the mids when i play with much gain I dunno if you know what i mean?!?

 

[kmcguitars]

Re: I've got a love/hate thing with the Vintage 30

I recorded 2 clips this afternoon Tele>Duncan 54> Homebrew 2204 clone> 2x12 closed back cab> Studio Projects B1 Mic approx. 6" off each cone>ART preamp into Cakewalk 3. (Straight up, No EQ or Nutt'in) 1 speaker is a V30 the other a Old Eminence from a Peavey (That I took out of the garbage:27: )
Which one sounds better and why? Should be pretty EZ to tell em' apart?
speaker_test1.mp3
speaker_test2.mp3

 

[SoCalSteve]

Re: I've got a love/hate thing with the Vintage 30

I recorded 2 clips this afternoon Tele>Duncan 54> Homebrew 2204 clone> 2x12 closed back cab> Studio Projects B1 Mic approx. 6" off each cone>ART preamp into Cakewalk 3. (Straight up, No EQ or Nutt'in) 1 speaker is a V30 the other a Old Eminence from a Peavey (That I took out of the garbage:27: )
Which one sounds better and why? Should be pretty EZ to tell em' apart?
speaker_test1.mp3
speaker_test2.mp3

I like number one. Sounds more 'alive' and has an edge I like. I'll be interested to know which one it is.