I've never installed a pick-up before and the wiring diagram is missing (SHPR-1)
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Re: I've never installed a pick-up before and the wiring diagram is missing (SHPR-1)
Really? There's only one red cable coming out of the PU, and where it's soldered to the pots the casing is cut and there's a white wire and the bare ground wire. So you're saying somewhere closer to the PU there are more wires inside the red casing?
Really? There's only one red cable coming out of the PU, and where it's soldered to the pots the casing is cut and there's a white wire and the bare ground wire. So you're saying somewhere closer to the PU there are more wires inside the red casing?
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Re: I've never installed a pick-up before and the wiring diagram is missing (SHPR-1)
The schematic diagram that ehdwuld posted earlier illustrates Ibanez two conductor + shield pickup wiring. Bare is always grounded. The use to which the red and white wires are put can vary from one guitar to the next.
At the most basic level, every pickup coil has two ends. These need to be connected somewhere for a signal to emerge. A humbucker has two coils and, hence, four coil ends. These are usually linked to each other or to a four con output cable inside the tape and metal covering of the HB.
Somebody will have to post an exploded diagram of a humbucker to illustrate this better.
EDIT: Ibanez GAX spec = Powersound HBs.
IMO, modifying these is only worthwhile as a way to teach yourself what the inside of a HB looks like. If, as I suspect, the Powersound neck and bridge HBs are identical, you could try modifying the unit that came out of the bridge position. Three to four inches of four con + shield cable should be enough for a Triple Shot installation.
The schematic diagram that ehdwuld posted earlier illustrates Ibanez two conductor + shield pickup wiring. Bare is always grounded. The use to which the red and white wires are put can vary from one guitar to the next.
At the most basic level, every pickup coil has two ends. These need to be connected somewhere for a signal to emerge. A humbucker has two coils and, hence, four coil ends. These are usually linked to each other or to a four con output cable inside the tape and metal covering of the HB.
Somebody will have to post an exploded diagram of a humbucker to illustrate this better.
EDIT: Ibanez GAX spec = Powersound HBs.
IMO, modifying these is only worthwhile as a way to teach yourself what the inside of a HB looks like. If, as I suspect, the Powersound neck and bridge HBs are identical, you could try modifying the unit that came out of the bridge position. Three to four inches of four con + shield cable should be enough for a Triple Shot installation.
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Re: I've never installed a pick-up before and the wiring diagram is missing (SHPR-1)
ok. So if I cut in to the shrink tubing closer to the PU, I should be able to find a red cable, leaving me with red, white and ground. And there's a way to actually wire this to a triple shot. I'm decent with electronics and soldering, and I'm patient and can follow a wiring diagram. Are there some decent instructions for this somewhere? Is this something I should even attempt? Is it worth it? You (funkfingers) said it likely wouldn't sound good in anything but standard series wiring.
Thank you Funkfingers and ehdwuld for your help and patience!
ok. So if I cut in to the shrink tubing closer to the PU, I should be able to find a red cable, leaving me with red, white and ground. And there's a way to actually wire this to a triple shot. I'm decent with electronics and soldering, and I'm patient and can follow a wiring diagram. Are there some decent instructions for this somewhere? Is this something I should even attempt? Is it worth it? You (funkfingers) said it likely wouldn't sound good in anything but standard series wiring.
Thank you Funkfingers and ehdwuld for your help and patience!
Re: I've never installed a pick-up before and the wiring diagram is missing (SHPR-1)
posted that before I saw the edit. So probably a good idea to just try it out with the old PU wired as is. I may end up getting another new PU. If I'd done my research instead of leaving this up to a friend, I'd have just got a matched pair of P rails!
posted that before I saw the edit. So probably a good idea to just try it out with the old PU wired as is. I may end up getting another new PU. If I'd done my research instead of leaving this up to a friend, I'd have just got a matched pair of P rails!
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Re: I've never installed a pick-up before and the wiring diagram is missing (SHPR-1)
I suggest that you avoid unnecessary work. Install the bridge position P-Rail. Compare and contrast it to the Ibanez/Powersound HB. Hopefully, there will be a noticable difference in tonal quality. If you like the P-Rails, buy another for the neck position.
The Triple Shot requires a pickup to have five cables (including the bare ground). Your Ibanez/Powersound comes with three cables (inc. gnd). If you are lucky, the red and white conductors are hot and tap. If you are unlucky, they are just the North Start and South Start ends of the humbucker. The latter combination would only permit overall phase reversal.
I suggest that you avoid unnecessary work. Install the bridge position P-Rail. Compare and contrast it to the Ibanez/Powersound HB. Hopefully, there will be a noticable difference in tonal quality. If you like the P-Rails, buy another for the neck position.
The Triple Shot requires a pickup to have five cables (including the bare ground). Your Ibanez/Powersound comes with three cables (inc. gnd). If you are lucky, the red and white conductors are hot and tap. If you are unlucky, they are just the North Start and South Start ends of the humbucker. The latter combination would only permit overall phase reversal.
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Re: I've never installed a pick-up before and the wiring diagram is missing (SHPR-1)
here are the V7 and the V8 pickups that came out of my RG2
the one on the left is the V7 neck pickup and if you look closely at the white wire
you can see the shrink tubing pulled up and the bare in with it
on the V8 on the right I have some thing similar to what you have
just 2 conductors and the bare ground
in the second picture is the INF series that cam in my RG4
as you can see they also have the red,white and black
but the black is a big shrink tubed affair htat could be stripped back and would probably reveal the ground and bare as the V7 did
also the point where the conductors come out of the cable has shrink tubing
if that were removed I think it may show, as the V7 did the other conductors
removing this shrink tubing may solve the mystery
but if yours is like the V8 in the right side of the 1st image then it may in fact be a two conductor cable with a bare ground
i havent taken a Powersound apart so I really could say
if you do then please post pics as I am curious
here are the V7 and the V8 pickups that came out of my RG2
the one on the left is the V7 neck pickup and if you look closely at the white wire
you can see the shrink tubing pulled up and the bare in with it
on the V8 on the right I have some thing similar to what you have
just 2 conductors and the bare ground
in the second picture is the INF series that cam in my RG4
as you can see they also have the red,white and black
but the black is a big shrink tubed affair htat could be stripped back and would probably reveal the ground and bare as the V7 did
also the point where the conductors come out of the cable has shrink tubing
if that were removed I think it may show, as the V7 did the other conductors
removing this shrink tubing may solve the mystery
but if yours is like the V8 in the right side of the 1st image then it may in fact be a two conductor cable with a bare ground
i havent taken a Powersound apart so I really could say
if you do then please post pics as I am curious
