J-bass? P-bass? PJ-bass? What's good for a begginer?

I am going to but myself my first bass. There has always been something about Fenders, especially strats, that has left me in awe so I want something at least similar to a strat. I am new to basses, and all guitars to tell you the truth. I'm a drummer who has always envied the bassist. I want to change the pickups almost as soon as I buy it. It's my first bass so I don't want to spend more than $450. So if I get the bass for about 200-250 should that leave me with a decent amount for the pickups? And I can't decide what pickup configuration I want Jazz, Precision, PJ? Nobody has been able to give me any helpful advice so far.:disappoin:disappoin
 
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P basses have more grunt than J's, but j's sound deeper yet clearer at the same time.
You'll have to play a few to see which you prefer and then look more at specifics.
The right amp and cab is crucial for a fat bass tone...don't forget about that.
 
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I think basic, one-pickup basses are great for beginners. Something like a Classic Vibe P or Bronco. Not only are they easy to figure out and non-distracting, but there also isn't a lot that cannot be done with them, if you learn to use technique to squeeze the most out of them. Jazz basses and active basses are more complicated and distracting for someone just learning to play, and they do some of the "hard stuff" for you, so you may not be forced to learn how to do it with your fingers.

That said, the bass you learn on doesn't matter all that much. Despite my recommendation above, I learned on a '77 Music Man, an active, fretless bass. That kind of bass is pretty much all I played for 20 years before discovering the beauty of frets and passive pickups in the form of a standard vintage-style P around 2008. I learned on that Music Man not because I really chose it, but because it's what was around (my dad's) when I learned. When I got my own bass in '96, I simply chose one very similar to what I had been playing for eight years: a G&L L-2000 fretless. Once I discovered frets and passive pickups, I did not look back. I still have both those active, fretless, "techie" basses, but I have not played them more than a few hours a piece since picking up that P. My thinking was, "Where have you been all my life?" There is simply nothing like a good P-bass IMO.
 
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Well, Jazz basses have a huge advantage, and that is that you can get these MIJ Fernandez things form the 1990 for dirt cheap, although they are really better than anything else for those $250. The pickups in there are kind of hard-hitting ceramics. A problem is that bassists change pickups a lot less and hence there are fewer used pickups in the market (expensive).

The Jazz bass also has a smaller neck and it might sound a bit nicer when played alone outside a band.

Inside a rock band a Precision bass is a safer guess for something that gets the job done, though.
 
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bartolini make p bass style split pickups hidden inside a j bass housing. I have a pair of them in my jazz bass. Deep and powerful they are too.
 
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Although I have to agree with what ItsaBass said, I personally like the Jazz bass. I love the tone (multi tones) and how versatile it is. And I like the feel of the slightly smaller neck...very fast and comfy in my small hands.

Outside of your price range, but my very fav bass is the Ric (even though it has a larger neck than the Jazz). It is extremely versatile and has an acoustic percussive type tone that can't be duplicated by any other. Yet it still can be smooth and mellow. Besides, it is just plain gorgeous looking.

I only have two basses right now, a Jazz and an ESP (Jazz style) with actives. Both are amazing in their own rights and the ESP can be found used for well within your price range.
 
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P basses have more grunt than J's, but j's sound deeper yet clearer at the same time.

P/J basses give you a ton of flexibility. I prefer 2 volumes compared to a blend knob, but they both do similar things. I use more P pickup with a little J pickup to add clarity. It smooths it out and refines the tone just enough.
 
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I like the concept of the PJ bass... but it rarely sound JUST LIKE a jazz bass with both pickups on.

I like how the P-bass sounds huge and round

but love how the jazz bass is slinky and elegant.

P bass is better in a rock setting.. jazz bass will do for rock but i don't think it has the same "wow" factor.


dont get the wrong.. the jazz bass is versatile, but there's nothing like P-bass chunk for rocking out.
 
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I would say a P Bass would be a great choice but so is a Jazz. I own a Jazz but I am really not a bass player. I bought it years ago to do some very basic recording. I think a p bass is hitter and personally I would not change a thing on it until you have played it a few months to determine what you want the bases to do that it is not doing with the stock pickups
 
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I like the consistent tone that you get from a jazz bass over the P bass. From me, Jazz basses are the way to go. I think either one that you learn on, you'll like, I just prefer jazz basses.
 
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Save your money for the amp... My no name p bass sounds huge.
 
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Thanks for the advice. Anything to say about the pickups specifically? Am I right in changing the straight off? or should i wait till i know my instrument better? is it worth getting rid of low-end no name pickups straight off? I found a P-bass that I liked, it had 2 versions one with some cheap pick ups for about $240 and a high end version with Duncan Designed pickups for about $360. If I get the high end I don't think I'll have money to change the pickups anytime soon and I'll have about $100 left for an amp. If I get the low end I'll have enough money to change the pickups or maybe spend the money I save on decent amp. any advice? I thought I might get the low end and change to some Seymour Duncan pickups straight, get the cheapest amp on the market and get a better amp a year or two down the line when I have the cash.
 
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You really have to say more what "high end" here means. The Duncan Designed pickup is probably not bad but overall a good US made pickup is cheap enough and makes enough of a difference that you sooner or later will get one (in particular in a one-pickup instrument).
 
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Jazz basses and active basses are more complicated and distracting for someone just learning to play, and they do some of the "hard stuff" for you, so you may not be forced to learn how to do it with your fingers.

What exactly do you mean by this? I haven't played enough basses to know.


For what it's worth, I like the P/J concept. I think beginners should have just enough versatility in their gear to give them some options; I can't imagine taking up bass again without having both P and J sounds available. It doesn't seem like it would be much different from having a humbucker and a single-coil in the same guitar, in terms of complications and distractions.

One of the things that frustrated me about being a beginning guitarist was wanting the sound of a humbucker in the neck of a Les Paul, when the only guitar I had was an S-S-H Strat. I could roll the tone down and mimick (crudely) the tonal balance, but I could never approach the complexity. It was tough for me to deal with at that age, and I think it kept me from really embracing a lot of music as a player until much, much later. So I do think there's such a thing as too much simplicity for a beginning player. Later on, when you're really good, you can show off how much you can do on a guitar with one singe-coil pickup and a volume knob.
 
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The Squier Vintage Modified series is a good place to start, regardless of money. You could enjoy playing one even after advancing to a far more expensive instrument.

A single pickup bass guitar is great for nailing the low end in a band context. One with active equalisation tone control circuitry should be capable of just about any sound. A two pickup bass guitar will offer greater sonic versatility but you need to learn how to exploit it.

A pair of Jazz Bass pickups interacts in a very distinctive way. The two pickups generate roughly equal output. Balancing their respective volume levels creates some unique and interesting tones.

The PJ combination consists of two pickups with markedly different output levels. They do not interact in quite the same way as a JJ pair. Whether this is "better" or "worse" than a regular Jazz Bass is entirely subjective.

My usual suggestion is to buy a pre-owned Yamaha RBX or Attitude Plus model bass guitar and modify it a little. One pickup and active EQ could be all that you need.
 
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My recommendation for a bass in that price range is a used Peavey T-40. They have two humbuckers that are spin-to-split into single coils...the tone knob for each pickup gives you HB sounds when set over 7 on the dial, and SC sounds below 7. That way, you can get P, J, and PJ type tones out of it. The necks and bodies are bullet proof, and the bridges are super good.

They're heavy yet solid, killer instruments that could be used to smash most other basses, and still be in tune for a gig.
 
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