Jackson Adrian Smith replica

Re: Jackson Adrian Smith replica

No PAF Pro, just PAF, and the old design too, not the new 36th Anniversary Model. The PAF Pro didn't come out until 1986.

Also, go with an Original Floyd Rose, not the Floyd Pro (horrible in comparison). And, with a white body, stick with a single-layer black pickguard. No need to go with 3 layers.

I don't think you can get Warmoth necks in 12-16" radius but you sure can get 10-16" and as an owner of one of them, they are very comfortable to play.

Or, you can just get one of these (he uses a HSS configuration these days. Dave was the one with HSH.):

http://www.jacksonguitars.com/products/specSheet.php?product=2803052876
 
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ErikH said:
No PAF Pro, just PAF, and the old design too, not the new 36th Anniversary Model. The PAF Pro didn't come out until 1986.

Also, go with an Original Floyd Rose, not the Floyd Pro (horrible in comparison). And, with a white body, stick with a single-layer black pickguard. No need to go with 3 layers.

I don't think you can get Warmoth necks in 12-16" radius but you sure can get 10-16" and as an owner of one of them, they are very comfortable to play.

Or, you can just get one of these (he uses a HSS configuration these days. Dave was the one with HSH.):

http://www.jacksonguitars.com/products/specSheet.php?product=2803052876
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please , read my first post at this thread
 
Re: Jackson Adrian Smith replica

Mr.Geoffroy said:
please , read my first post at this thread
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I did. Was giving comments/suggestions as you asked. Out of all the guitars I have seen him play, none have been HSH. They have been either HxH or HSS.

It's a cool project, no doubt. Just saying that if you want it to be an Adrian Smith replica, it should match the specs. The only spec I see being an issue of acquiring is the compound radius neck being 12-16". Warmoth doesn't do that. However, Musikraft does.
 
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ErikH said:
I did. Was giving comments/suggestions as you asked. Out of all the guitars I have seen him play, none have been HSH. They have been either HxH or HSS.

It's a cool project, no doubt. Just saying that if you want it to be an Adrian Smith replica, it should match the specs. The only spec I see being an issue of acquiring is the compound radius neck being 12-16". Warmoth doesn't do that. However, Musikraft does.
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dude, who will do the neck is a Brazilian luthier. I am following the specifications of your old Jackson, not the signature.
 
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hey guys what do you you think about the neck?
its better buy it on Musikraft, or let the luthier do it?
 
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Mr.Geoffroy said:
dude, who will do the neck is a Brazilian luthier. I am following the specifications of your old Jackson, not the signature.
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You stated in your second post, "All the parts were purchased at Warmoth and stewmac." From that, it read as if even the neck was being purchased from one of those 2 sources.

That's cool that you have a luthier to make a custom neck for you, but your first post does not read that way. From what you typed, to me, it reads as if you are buying all the parts (including the neck), except the bridge and pickups, from Warmoth and Stewmac and having the luthier put it all together and set it up.
 
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ErikH said:
You stated in your second post, "All the parts were purchased at Warmoth and stewmac." From that, it read as if even the neck was being purchased from one of those 2 sources.

That's cool that you have a luthier to make a custom neck for you, but your first post does not read that way. From what you typed, to me, it reads as if you are buying all the parts (including the neck), except the bridge and pickups, from Warmoth and Stewmac and having the luthier put it all together and set it up.
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sorry , i will not buy the neck on warmoth
 
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I think if you're going to have a custom neck made, you should also replace that old Squier plywood body with something better.

Are you looking to do a guitar that is "similar to" or "exactly the same" as Adrian's SIT Jackson? If you want "exactly the same" you'll need to build the neck to Jackson specs - which is 22 frets, 2 1/4" heel, 12-16" compound radius, quarter sawn maple, oil finish. Further, the Squier body will not have the same shape as a Jackson strat body. Jackson body's have a smaller edge radius - so they are more square than Fender/Squier bodies. Adrian's pickups in that guitar were Super Distortion (non-trem spaced), Jackson Single coil, Super Distortion neck.

You're probably better off looking for a white Charvel SoCal and starting from there. Its already 95% done for you.
 
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Grandturk said:
I think if you're going to have a custom neck made, you should also replace that old Squier plywood body with something better.

Are you looking to do a guitar that is "similar to" or "exactly the same" as Adrian's SIT Jackson? If you want "exactly the same" you'll need to build the neck to Jackson specs - which is 22 frets, 2 1/4" heel, 12-16" compound radius, quarter sawn maple, oil finish. Further, the Squier body will not have the same shape as a Jackson strat body. Jackson body's have a smaller edge radius - so they are more square than Fender/Squier bodies. Adrian's pickups in that guitar were Super Distortion (non-trem spaced), Jackson Single coil, Super Distortion neck.

You're probably better off looking for a white Charvel SoCal and starting from there. Its already 95% done for you.
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man , im looking for a almost exactly copy, and the luthier already confirmed that the Squier body is made of alder, about the pickups, I will not change them. because I think that they are great, and he has not used a super distortion in the neck but a Dimarzio PAF's, and the 59 is a PAF.so there is no much difference.
about the radius of the edge, dont you think that the luthier can fix this problem?
 
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Mr.Geoffroy said:
man , im looking for a almost exactly copy, and the luthier already confirmed that the Squier body is made of alder, about the pickups, I will not change them. because I think that they are great, and he has not used a super distortion in the neck but a Dimarzio PAF's, and the 59 is a PAF.so there is no much difference.
about the radius of the edge, dont you think that the luthier can fix this problem?
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He most likely can fix the body radius on the body to match but keep in mind that Squier bodies are thinner than Jackson/Charvel and even Fender American and Mexican bodies. It can be done, just might not look as nice on the thinner body.

On the neck pickup, the Duncan '59 is a completely different sounding PAF from the DiMarzio PAF. Both are great PAF's, but different interpretations of it. I prefer the DiMarzio PAF in the neck, it's not as woofy, and sounds more balanced to me, has more mids.

As for the neck, compare what it will cost the luthier to build it to those specs versus buying it from Musikraft. You can even get the Charvel sized headstock (pretty much same as the Jackson's Strat head). The only thing you can't do is go with the 2 1/4" heel width. It will be too wide for the Squier body. 2 3/16" should fit. Measure first.
 
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ErikH said:
He most likely can fix the body radius on the body to match but keep in mind that Squier bodies are thinner than Jackson/Charvel and even Fender American and Mexican bodies. It can be done, just might not look as nice on the thinner body.

On the neck pickup, the Duncan '59 is a completely different sounding PAF from the DiMarzio PAF. Both are great PAF's, but different interpretations of it. I prefer the DiMarzio PAF in the neck, it's not as woofy, and sounds more balanced to me, has more mids.

As for the neck, compare what it will cost the luthier to build it to those specs versus buying it from Musikraft. You can even get the Charvel sized headstock (pretty much same as the Jackson's Strat head). The only thing you can't do is go with the 2 1/4" heel width. It will be too wide for the Squier body. 2 3/16" should fit. Measure first.
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this body of Squier has a thickness of 45mm. I think this is a measure of the fenders right?
the size of the headstock Charvel and jacksons strat is different from the fender?
sorry, but do not know anything about these heel stuff, would you explain to me?
 
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Mr.Geoffroy said:
this body of Squier has a thickness of 45mm. I think this is a measure of the fenders right?
the size of the headstock Charvel and jacksons strat is different from the fender?
sorry, but do not know anything about these heel stuff, would you explain to me?
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That sounds about right (body thickness). You should be fine.

The neck heel is where the neck meets the body and is bolted to the body (in the neck pocket). The standard Fender width of the heel is 2 3/16". This is measured from the bass side to treble side on the flat surface that sits in the neck pocket. The neck pocket must also measure 2 3/16" from side to side in order for the neck to fit properly. Charvel necks, and the neck on Smith's Jackson Strats are 2 1/4" at the heel. That width will not fit on your Squier body. If you end up ordering a Charvel spec'd neck from Musikraft, you can specify a heel width of 2 3/16", which is most likely what your body neck pocket width is.

The Charvel "Strathead" headstock shape is slightly larger than Fender. There was a site I saw that had an overlay of the 50's, 60's, 70's Fenders and Charvel headstock shapes that made the differences easy to see. If you go here, https://www.musikraft.com/store.php?pg1-cid52.html, and read the "Head Shapes" section, that'll explain it better.
 
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ErikH said:
That sounds about right (body thickness). You should be fine.

The neck heel is where the neck meets the body and is bolted to the body (in the neck pocket). The standard Fender width of the heel is 2 3/16". This is measured from the bass side to treble side on the flat surface that sits in the neck pocket. The neck pocket must also measure 2 3/16" from side to side in order for the neck to fit properly. Charvel necks, and the neck on Smith's Jackson Strats are 2 1/4" at the heel. That width will not fit on your Squier body. If you end up ordering a Charvel spec'd neck from Musikraft, you can specify a heel width of 2 3/16", which is most likely what your body neck pocket width is.

The Charvel "Strathead" headstock shape is slightly larger than Fender. There was a site I saw that had an overlay of the 50's, 60's, 70's Fenders and Charvel headstock shapes that made the differences easy to see. If you go here, https://www.musikraft.com/store.php?pg1-cid52.html, and read the "Head Shapes" section, that'll explain it better.
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you think the luthier can modify the heel of the body?
 
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Mr.Geoffroy said:
you think the luthier can modify the heel of the body?
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I don't know for sure, but my guess is no because the heel on the body is already too narrow. If you have to have a 2 1/4" heel, you will need a different body, and one that has that heel width. Aside from your local luthier making one, you'd have to order one and specify it. Musickraft and Warmoth both offer that heel width.
 
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ErikH said:
I don't know for sure, but my guess is no because the heel on the body is already too narrow. If you have to have a 2 1/4" heel, you will need a different body, and one that has that heel width. Aside from your local luthier making one, you'd have to order one and specify it. Musickraft and Warmoth both offer that heel width.
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but what's the big difference between these two measures?
 
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