nexion218
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Re: Jackson Dinky Pro DK2
That should be the cost cutting part I believe... I would think that steel parts need to be machined, whereas chep alloys can be cast into form. But I might be off the mark with that. Maybe its just the difference in cost. Also, you cannot cut corners anywhere else: if they made the posts or the baseplate from inferior material, the thing wouldn't make it to the stores. On the other hand, you can actually live with the zinc alloy saddles. I got the following tip from one of my country's most renowned luthier and official Floyd dealer: NEVER tighten the string lock screw in one step. Do it fingertight, let it sit and then give it a little more, but still don't apply much force. Explanation: under the clamping pressure the strings should flatten out - you should see that when you change strings, especially on the wound strings. Now if you (over)tighten in one step, there is no time for the string to flatten out, and that's when you cut grooves into the saddle and/or string locking block. Now the strings wont flatten out, but instead will sit in the groove and when you increase the tension by bending, it just slips out. And this is especially true for for the zinc alloy saddles. So in most cases overtightening immediately is the culprit, which is most evidently exposed on parts made of the zinc alloy. Chek your saddles and blocks with a magnifier next time you change a string! The grooves and string imprints will be everywhere. And to make things worse, those grooves will have burrs on the side, which may then manifest as constant string breakage near the saddles. The above mentioned SLX's "Special" saddles were in such a bad shape, that I could hardly get the thing tuned up. When I inspected it, there were more grooves than saddles, because the previous owner tried to tighten it with all his might...
Besides, I understand the business part of making the Floyd Special. Quite a lot of people seem to be content with the cheap pot metal unbranded or licensed stuff, so why not make them buy from "us" instead of others? They get the logo of the Floyd Rose brand and the same ****ty saddles and sustain blocks they are used to, plus manufacturers can advertise their guitars with Floyd Rose hardware, not some licensed stuff... Actually a smart business decision. And don't forget: if noone bought cheap and ****ty instruments/parts, then it wouldn't be profitable producing them.
The saddle blocks are the thing that irk me. Why make the part that's holding the string out of some cheap pot metal? I've had so much trouble setting up Floyd Specials because the e string will just slip out when you bend it. My fix is bending it into a little ball of string with some needle nose pliers then stuffing that in the saddle. All in all, having to do this is inexcusable and so is having to buy aftermarket saddles and their blocks. I was chatting with a guy who claimed this was still an issue on the Floyd Originals... so just get a Gotoh.
That should be the cost cutting part I believe... I would think that steel parts need to be machined, whereas chep alloys can be cast into form. But I might be off the mark with that. Maybe its just the difference in cost. Also, you cannot cut corners anywhere else: if they made the posts or the baseplate from inferior material, the thing wouldn't make it to the stores. On the other hand, you can actually live with the zinc alloy saddles. I got the following tip from one of my country's most renowned luthier and official Floyd dealer: NEVER tighten the string lock screw in one step. Do it fingertight, let it sit and then give it a little more, but still don't apply much force. Explanation: under the clamping pressure the strings should flatten out - you should see that when you change strings, especially on the wound strings. Now if you (over)tighten in one step, there is no time for the string to flatten out, and that's when you cut grooves into the saddle and/or string locking block. Now the strings wont flatten out, but instead will sit in the groove and when you increase the tension by bending, it just slips out. And this is especially true for for the zinc alloy saddles. So in most cases overtightening immediately is the culprit, which is most evidently exposed on parts made of the zinc alloy. Chek your saddles and blocks with a magnifier next time you change a string! The grooves and string imprints will be everywhere. And to make things worse, those grooves will have burrs on the side, which may then manifest as constant string breakage near the saddles. The above mentioned SLX's "Special" saddles were in such a bad shape, that I could hardly get the thing tuned up. When I inspected it, there were more grooves than saddles, because the previous owner tried to tighten it with all his might...
Besides, I understand the business part of making the Floyd Special. Quite a lot of people seem to be content with the cheap pot metal unbranded or licensed stuff, so why not make them buy from "us" instead of others? They get the logo of the Floyd Rose brand and the same ****ty saddles and sustain blocks they are used to, plus manufacturers can advertise their guitars with Floyd Rose hardware, not some licensed stuff... Actually a smart business decision. And don't forget: if noone bought cheap and ****ty instruments/parts, then it wouldn't be profitable producing them.