Jackson J50b and J200 replacement

JohnnyDog

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I'm looking at replacing the pickups in my 87 Charvel model 4

J50B with the Duncan Distortion TB6 Trembucker
J200s with a Hot Rail in the Neck and a Cool Rail in the middle

Question is am I missing a trick here and would maybe a Vintage Rail give me a wider range of tones

Suggestions

Thanks
 
Re: Jackson J50b and J200 replacement

If your guitar has the original JT6 Floyd, then you don't need a trembucker as these have a tighter spacing.
 
Re: Jackson J50b and J200 replacement

Thanks for the reply, but I'm replacing the JT6 with a licensed Floyd Rose so assumed the Trembucker would be the correct choice.

I've measured the JT6 which gives a 50mm spread so a humbucker would be ideal, the new Floyd Rose gives 53mm which suggests I need to go for the Trembucker.
 
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Re: Jackson J50b and J200 replacement

Welcome!! Great Axe! The Dist would be smokin in that axe.. IMO, the hotrails would be a bit much for a neck pup and may be muddy unless you want something very hot there.. I have a guitar that has JB/ cool rails/ cool rails and the cool rails is pretty cookin in the neck
 
Re: Jackson J50b and J200 replacement

There is a Hot Rails neck. Doesn't seem that wildly overwound compared to a Cool Rails neck from the specs. Is it really that muddy?

I'd probably try something like TB-6 Distortion/STK-S4 Classic Stack Plus/SHR-1n Hot Rails neck, but I tend to worry about strattier 2+4 position sounds if I've got a 3 pickup setup. And if the SHR-1n was too muddy, swap it out for an SCR-1n (hurray for 21 day guarantee applying where I am). If it's just too hot compared to the middle, I'd switch to an STK-S7 Hot Vintage Stack Plus in the middle.

SCR-1n middle should be fine if you prefer rail pickups.


Actually, I'd probably do a PATB-2 Parallel Axis Distortion in the bridge. I love the extra growl and sweeter lead tone compared to the TB-6. Lower string pull, longer sustain and crazier harmonics are other plusses. It is hotter and tends to compress more, though. Would bump it to an STK-S7 Hot Vintage Stack Plus in the middle for better pickup balance.
 
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Re: Jackson J50b and J200 replacement

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choices choices choices


thanks will give these options a listen. Sound goods as wanted a classic look with great distortion sounds and Im not sure about the look of the Rails
 
Re: Jackson J50b and J200 replacement

If you don't want rails at all, I'd look at an STK-S6 Custom Stack Plus in the neck, in addition to the STK-S4 or STK-S7 in the middle.

The reason for the lower output middle is that gives you the best quack in the 2+4 positions.

Stack Plus series are much more single coil sounding, if that's the sound you want. A brief summary of the different ones I've suggested:

STK-S4 Classic Stack Plus is a noise-cancelling version of the SSL-2 Vintage Flat (which is the flat radius version of the SSL-1 Vintage Staggered). Classic Seymour Duncan single coil, used by a ridiculous number of artists.

STK-S7 Hot Vintage Stack Plus is a moderately overwound vintage single, that doesn't have an equivalent in Seymour Duncan's non-humcancelling lineup. Similar to the sort of overwound vintage singles a lot of SRV tone chasers use if they don't like gargantuan strings.

The STK-S6 Custom Stack Plus is a noise-cancelling take on the SSL-6 (which is a flat radius version of the SSL-5 Custom Staggered) Custom Flat which is a hotter wound single coil that David Gilmour sometimes used for a bridge pickup. Hotter and more midrange, still sounds like a single coil but behaves better under high gain than most low output singles.

The rails do give a pretty different tone, a side-by-side humbucker, but with narrow coils and a tighter focus. Humbuckerish tone with a single coil-like punch.

The PATB-2's looks might not work for you, if you are hung up on classic looks. Still, there's nothing quite like it in the conventional TB lineup. Riffs like an Invader, but it's not as dark. Thrash rhythms like a Distortion, but not quite as harsh a presence. Screaming leads almost like a JB, but it's thicker, way hotter and more compressed.

The TB-6 Distortion's not as thick and more biting. Still the same family of sounds as the PATB-2, but thinner and harsher. Slightly better for biting thrash rhythms, but gives up a bit on riffs and solos. If your guitar is dark or bass-heavy, it's probably the better choice.
 
Re: Jackson J50b and J200 replacement

I'm looking at the same thing for my Model 3. However, be careful with the model 4, I beieve it has the same midboost circuit as my Model 6, which uses low impedance pups. I'm just tossing this out there, because I'm not sure what the effect would be.

BTW, the STK-S4 is very appealing!
 
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