Jackson RR1 / RR1T owners. Tell me what you think.

[BrockSamson]

Looking to get a new Jackson sometime here in the next few months. Looking at the RR1 / RR1T model.

I've never owned a Floyd Rose guitar before, so I'm hoping a REAL one, not a licensed one, will erase the bad tastes in my mouth from working on my buddies $600 RR model.

Tell me what your opinion on your RR1 models are.

Please, no other models (RR3 / RR5 / KV) as the RR1 is the only one I'm looking at thanks.

 

[Empty Pockets]

Re: Jackson RR1 / RR1T owners. Tell me what you think.

just my two cents, but the "real" Floyd Rose is not any easier to work with or set-up than a cheapo one...

the biggest difference between the two is tone and longevity. those cheap ones wear out and get all rusty and crappy quick...but you'll find guitars with OFR's from the 80's that still work fine.

Wasn't Randy's Rhoads a non-Floyd? :smokin:

 

[Andrew Lamprecht]

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Wasn't Randy's Rhoads a non-Floyd? :smokin:

Sure was. He had either a fixed bridge or a strat bridge on his Vs.

 

[cakire82]

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I can vouch for any USA made Jackson. Supreme quality, craftsmanship and sound. Whether RR1 or RR1T you won't regret it. Simply go for the bridge you like more.

 

[Brown Note]

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People who say that the floyd is pain to restring or get in tune are doing something wrong. I've had a couple floyded quitars(with real floyd roses) and they've all been very easy to work with. Only difficult part is changing the fine tuning, but other than that it takes roughly as long to restring a RR1T as it takes with RR1. Learn to use your equipment right!

The biggest difference with tom or floyd is the string angle as floyd sits almost flush to the body and tom a good half inch above.

 

[DrNewcenstein]

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Wasn't Randy's Rhoads a non-Floyd? :foot:

And why do people think that just because RR didn't use a Floyd Rose on his own model that his is the be all/end all path to follow?

Randy studied classical guitar every chance he got, do you?
Randy was a master of the guitar, are you?
He had a successful gig with a famous name and is hailed as a legend. Are you?
No?
Then why do you own a guitar?


See how far comments like that can go?

So everyone stop making them!

No one gives a flying **** if Rhoads used a Floyd or not. If they want a Jackson Rhoads with a Floyd, STFU and let them f'ing have it without ignorant f'ing comments about what Randy did or did not f'ing use.

Jesus Christ, now I know why Oppenheimer thought splitting an atom was such a great idea - population reduction.



Brock - While I was never a fan of the RR model (uncomfy for me) I do own several Floyded guitars, and even though I don't do much whammy abuse, I greatly prefer the tuning stability they offer over traditional nuts/bridges WITHOUT the need to oil/lube/learn to cut nuts like a pro luthier.

String it up, tune it, tighten it, fine tune it. It's really no worse than a tuneomatic equipped guitar what with all the stretching you have to do on those before it settles down.

 

[AdamBrad]

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I've never used an Orignal Floyd, but I do have an Ibanez Lo-Pro Edge (which I have seen people claim is better than the versions of the Original that have been produced in the last few years, but I'm not gonna make that assumption).

The only problem I have with Floyd Roses is intonation, which (atleast in my experience) can be a ***** to get right.

The only other thing that is worth mentioning is that I read somewhere (on SDUGF) that the Original Floyds produced over the last few years have gone down in quality, but I have no way of knowing this myself and would take it with a large pinch of salt.

 

[BrockSamson]

Re: Jackson RR1 / RR1T owners. Tell me what you think.

To be honest, all of my guitars have had the regular Strat/PRS Custom/Soloist body styles and I am quite looking forward to something very different. With the exception of my Gibson Gothic Explorer, all my guitars have been roughly the same so time to venture into the unknown.

I found a great deal on a used one, about $1400 and it's about a year old. Plan to replace with the EMG 81/?? pickups, maybe even the new X series EMGs.

Still haven't decided on what neck pickup to get. Maybe I'll harvest the 85 out of my DK2T since I planned to eventually put a Sustaniac in it anyway.

 

[JOLLY]

Re: Jackson RR1 / RR1T owners. Tell me what you think.

And why do people think that just because RR didn't use a Floyd Rose on his own model that his is the be all/end all path to follow?

Randy studied classical guitar every chance he got, do you?
Randy was a master of the guitar, are you?
He had a successful gig with a famous name and is hailed as a legend. Are you?
No?
Then why do you own a guitar?


See how far comments like that can go?

So everyone stop making them!

No one gives a flying **** if Rhoads used a Floyd or not. If they want a Jackson Rhoads with a Floyd, STFU and let them f'ing have it without ignorant f'ing comments about what Randy did or did not f'ing use.

Jesus Christ, now I know why Oppenheimer thought splitting an atom was such a great idea - population reduction.

Somebody reeeeaaaaally needs to get laid.

 

[Bones]

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lol...

 

[marvelous_seven]

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pcorn:

 

[astrozombie]

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Somebody reeeeaaaaally needs to get laid.

For once it isn't me.

I'd go fixed bridge. for tone reasons.

 

[Brown Note]

Re: Jackson RR1 / RR1T owners. Tell me what you think.

For once it isn't me.

I'd go fixed bridge. for tone reasons.

My experience is that a guitar with TOM bridge is a *lot* darker and stiffer sounding than a floyded guitar, which to me is a bad thing. My floyd equipped KE2 has much more lively and articulate sound than any other guitar that I've owned and is, consequently, the only "keeper" that I've ever had(more so as I really have to get a jackson warrior soon).

The difference is most apparent when a chord is played; floyd gives it a nice ringing and depending on the pickups the chord gets this wailing quality when it starts the decay(jb comes to mind). This I find especially pleasing when a sad(pretty much any major chord) needs just that extra bit of character. Strum it lightly and make your ears auralorgasm from the beautiful overtones of the floyd bridge.

 

[Binnerscot]

Re: Jackson RR1 / RR1T owners. Tell me what you think.

I have an RR1 along with a few other US Jacksons. I grew up on Floyds and really like them. Like posted earlier, if weren't getting along with a licensed copy, then you won't like an OFR any better. They operate and feel much the same, the OFR is just built better and will typically last longer.

I would prefer a Floyd over any other bridge and find the tuning is more stable than anything else out there; in 20 years I still find a well set up Floyd to stay in tune better than a standard bridge.

 

[Jackson Distortion]

Re: Jackson RR1 / RR1T owners. Tell me what you think.

I wasn't going to post in this in hopes the OP would've just gone on to buy the damn thing. But, it's funny the slag the RR1 gets for such things like, "A Floyd routing job makes it sound thinner., or, "The body wings are useless." Listen, I owned one two years ago and iirc, it was perhaps the heaviest sounding rock guitar in exsistence. And, the one I had was one of the brighter sounding ones. Just tones o' chunk one that one. Honestly, I was going to buy another one a few months ago instead of my SL2H, but I never owned a legendary Soloist, but already owned an RR1 once. One of the other reasons I passed on the RR1 was the fact that it had only 22 frets as opposed to 24 - and while I use all 24, I've come to realize 22 frets are just fine - and as a matter of fact - that partially lends to more 'chunk' in comparison to 24 frets; two mere frets.

Well, that's my story and I may very well attempt to buy another some day.

 

[Empty Pockets]

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Dr. Newc: Thanks for that ragesplosion. I look forward to irritating you in the future!

 

[DrNewcenstein]

Re: Jackson RR1 / RR1T owners. Tell me what you think.

The only problem I have with Floyd Roses is intonation, which (atleast in my experience) can be a ***** to get right.

This part is somewhat correct. If you can find a device called The Key for Floyd Rose trems, get one. It seems they either don't sell enough to warrant a steady production or they sell so fast they can't make them fast enough, but it took me literally YEARS to find one, and they work.

However, they only work on the "Original Floyd Rose" design that Schaller makes, not the Schaller-branded model with the shorter barrel-style string block locks screws, and not the low-profile Floyd styles.

That said, a simple trick I've developed over the years to intonate a double-locking trem is to first understand how much a small change will affect intonation, and then loosen the offending string completely (don't remove it), loosen the saddle retaining screw, and push the saddle backwards with a flathead screwdriver, then tighten the retaining screw, retune, and check it again.

Once it's set, it's set until you change tunings. I've heard of people having to re-intonate when changing strings (same gauge/brand/tuning/etc) but have never had that problem in 20+ years of multiple Floyded guitars and multiple string changes.


Also, don't fear the RR5FR or RR3's "cheaper" Floyd. OFRs will replace those just fine, and you get a quality guitar to boot.