Jackson vs Ibanez
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dominus
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Re: Jackson vs Ibanez
Just look harder. Pretty sure both these pictures were taken in Norway:
Just look harder. Pretty sure both these pictures were taken in Norway:
CTN
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if that were true, then black metal wouldn't be one of Norway's biggest exports
if that were true, then black metal wouldn't be one of Norway's biggest exports
Progbusters
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buy one those guitars cheap and spend more money on your amp
buy one those guitars cheap and spend more money on your amp
p4vl
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Just look harder. Pretty sure both these pictures were taken in Norway:
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p4vl
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I was parodying the guy in the pictures. He was in a band called Emperor. They were kind of a big deal, if you like Black Metal.
Back on Topic: If you're looking for used MIJ, I'd go with an Ibby Prestige. Ibby can make great trems (Edge, Lo Pro Edge, Edge Pro and the Edge Zero, so I hear) but the sustain block on the Edge Pro's are a bit thin (I've heard it's intentionally thin, leaving room for maximum whammy but what some might consider anemic tone). I'm getting a new brass block for my Edge Pro when I have some things sorted out.
Ibanez has at least 3 Prestige RG models with fixed bridges (RGA121, RG1451, RG1421F).
I also like that my 2004 RG2550 Ibby Prestige has DOTS on the fretboard, not goofy sharkfins. Both companies are guilty of this ugliness.
I was parodying the guy in the pictures. He was in a band called Emperor. They were kind of a big deal, if you like Black Metal.
Back on Topic: If you're looking for used MIJ, I'd go with an Ibby Prestige. Ibby can make great trems (Edge, Lo Pro Edge, Edge Pro and the Edge Zero, so I hear) but the sustain block on the Edge Pro's are a bit thin (I've heard it's intentionally thin, leaving room for maximum whammy but what some might consider anemic tone). I'm getting a new brass block for my Edge Pro when I have some things sorted out.
Ibanez has at least 3 Prestige RG models with fixed bridges (RGA121, RG1451, RG1421F).
I also like that my 2004 RG2550 Ibby Prestige has DOTS on the fretboard, not goofy sharkfins. Both companies are guilty of this ugliness.
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I see, im really looking for new to be honest. I cant find anything good used, could you suggest any good, inexpensive( up to around 350$?) That has really good quality for the value, do i really need trem? Bet these cheaper models has crappy trems anyway, but a good guitar atleast, that works well for metal.
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I see, im really looking for new to be honest. I cant find anything good used, could you suggest any good, inexpensive( up to around 350$?) That has really good quality for the value, do i really need trem? Bet these cheaper models has crappy trems anyway, but a good guitar atleast, that works well for metal.
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i'd say save the money and get this : http://www.thomann.de/gr/ibanez_arzir27fb_dbs.htm b-stock or used. Having to wait is not a bad thing. i've been waiting for ibanez UV70p for years!!!
I see, im really looking for new to be honest. I cant find anything good used, could you suggest any good, inexpensive( up to around 350$?) That has really good quality for the value, do i really need trem? Bet these cheaper models has crappy trems anyway, but a good guitar atleast, that works well for metal.
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i'd say save the money and get this : http://www.thomann.de/gr/ibanez_arzir27fb_dbs.htm b-stock or used. Having to wait is not a bad thing. i've been waiting for ibanez UV70p for years!!!
p4vl
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Well, I got my Ibanez for $450 USD (from a jemsite classified) and I've seen the same guitar going for at least $6-700 minimum used. Sometimes you get lucky. I know things are more expensive in Norwayland but check the classifieds on Jemsite and JCF Online to see if someone will ship to norway. I've seen other Europeans selling guitars on those sites, you might get a break.
A trem is not necessary at all, unless you want to do dive bombing and Dimebag whistles. I've got my tremolo blocked so I can **** around with tunings. I really like having the locking nut and fine tuners, I have to say.
With Jackson and Ibanez used guitars, you are more likely to run into locking tremolos (Jackson has put out a few superstrat/Flying V cheap models with string-through over the years, and as I mentioned Ibanez models with fixed bridges are a bit more expensive and rare).
I played one of these once at Guitar Center, it must have been the only guitar they could be bothered to set up in the store but wow:
http://ibanez.wikia.com/wiki/VBT700
Well, I got my Ibanez for $450 USD (from a jemsite classified) and I've seen the same guitar going for at least $6-700 minimum used. Sometimes you get lucky. I know things are more expensive in Norwayland but check the classifieds on Jemsite and JCF Online to see if someone will ship to norway. I've seen other Europeans selling guitars on those sites, you might get a break.
A trem is not necessary at all, unless you want to do dive bombing and Dimebag whistles. I've got my tremolo blocked so I can **** around with tunings. I really like having the locking nut and fine tuners, I have to say.
With Jackson and Ibanez used guitars, you are more likely to run into locking tremolos (Jackson has put out a few superstrat/Flying V cheap models with string-through over the years, and as I mentioned Ibanez models with fixed bridges are a bit more expensive and rare).
I played one of these once at Guitar Center, it must have been the only guitar they could be bothered to set up in the store but wow:
http://ibanez.wikia.com/wiki/VBT700
dominus
King Midas to Cheap Guitars
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Even if the going rate for guitars used in Norway is about twice what it is in the USA, you should still be able to find a decent middle of the line Ibanez or Jackson in your price range. (I've seen EMG equipped DXMGs for $200 and RG2EXs for $129.)
The two models you mentioned are junk. Spend the SAME money on something used and you'll be much better off.
Even if the going rate for guitars used in Norway is about twice what it is in the USA, you should still be able to find a decent middle of the line Ibanez or Jackson in your price range. (I've seen EMG equipped DXMGs for $200 and RG2EXs for $129.)
The two models you mentioned are junk. Spend the SAME money on something used and you'll be much better off.
ehdwuld
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one of mine is the RG2EX1 hardtail
light weight with duncans , easily the best sounding guitar I have
wait maybe thats the new MIM Fender
ok they all are just a bit different
I'm digging the Fender right now as its newer to me
but in a few months I'll be back to Ibbyland
one of mine is the RG2EX1 hardtail
light weight with duncans , easily the best sounding guitar I have
wait maybe thats the new MIM Fender
ok they all are just a bit different
I'm digging the Fender right now as its newer to me
but in a few months I'll be back to Ibbyland
Inflames626
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Candyman,
If you want to go the Floyd Rose route, save up and get a guitar with a decent Floyd like an Original Floyd Rose or a Floyd Rose Pro. They will be more expensive. The bridges alone are $200-250, but they will stay in tune and sound better whereas a licensed one won't.
I tried to save a few bucks with a licensed bridge and it turns out I'm going to have to upgrade them. Licensed bridges are good for the occasional dip and pull but not if you want to go Slayer crazy on them (I know Slayer was Kahlers but just saying).
A better, cheaper option would be for you to go with a string thru body or a tune-o-matic. You usually get better tone there than with a floating bridge.
Ibanez has its Edge bridges (original Edges) which are almost as good as Original Floyd Roses. If you can find an Ibanez with an original Edge, it might be less expensive than getting a Jackson with an OFR.
Ibanezes tend to have flatter necks, but on paper Jackson and Ibanez necks are very similar. I feel like Jackson necks have more meat on the back. I have a hard time getting a grip on an Ibanez neck. I feel like my hand has nowhere to rest.
You'll have more tone options with a hum single hum than with a hum hum. Ibanez wiring designs are a little more complicated than most manufacturers in that you can split many of them from the factory. And a hum/single/hum guitar is a lot like a regular 2 hum guitar and a hum single single Strat in the same guitar if you split the neck humbucker of the hum single hum guitar.
That said, I don't like them because the middle single coil of a hum single hum guitar gets in the way of my pick.
Ultimately, I like Jackson better because of the looks. But with Ibanez you tend to get more features for less money.
Bottom line--get a cheap, fixed bridge guitar. If you want to shred, save up for an OFR guitar, or try to find an Ibanez with an original Edge trem.
Candyman,
If you want to go the Floyd Rose route, save up and get a guitar with a decent Floyd like an Original Floyd Rose or a Floyd Rose Pro. They will be more expensive. The bridges alone are $200-250, but they will stay in tune and sound better whereas a licensed one won't.
I tried to save a few bucks with a licensed bridge and it turns out I'm going to have to upgrade them. Licensed bridges are good for the occasional dip and pull but not if you want to go Slayer crazy on them (I know Slayer was Kahlers but just saying).
A better, cheaper option would be for you to go with a string thru body or a tune-o-matic. You usually get better tone there than with a floating bridge.
Ibanez has its Edge bridges (original Edges) which are almost as good as Original Floyd Roses. If you can find an Ibanez with an original Edge, it might be less expensive than getting a Jackson with an OFR.
Ibanezes tend to have flatter necks, but on paper Jackson and Ibanez necks are very similar. I feel like Jackson necks have more meat on the back. I have a hard time getting a grip on an Ibanez neck. I feel like my hand has nowhere to rest.
You'll have more tone options with a hum single hum than with a hum hum. Ibanez wiring designs are a little more complicated than most manufacturers in that you can split many of them from the factory. And a hum/single/hum guitar is a lot like a regular 2 hum guitar and a hum single single Strat in the same guitar if you split the neck humbucker of the hum single hum guitar.
That said, I don't like them because the middle single coil of a hum single hum guitar gets in the way of my pick.
Ultimately, I like Jackson better because of the looks. But with Ibanez you tend to get more features for less money.
Bottom line--get a cheap, fixed bridge guitar. If you want to shred, save up for an OFR guitar, or try to find an Ibanez with an original Edge trem.
mantis
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I'm gonna open up with a Statement that Guitars are personal and you need to play both camps to see what you really like.
I have die hard Jackson Friends and Die Hard Ibanez Friends. Both love their array of Guitars for personal reasons.
I'm gonna give you my personal experience with both brands.
IBANEZ
- I have played models from $399.00 to $3000.00 and I have not found a single one I would take home and love. They are not comfortable for me , I don't like ht sway they feel in my hand. I hate most of them how they sound as I don't like most of the Pickups they use on a lot of the models. I don't like the Ibanez Trem Systems which seem to be built very well but don't feel right to me.
- I do however really like how most of them look. Even the entry level model look fantastic and why I keep giving them test drives when I see one that appeals to me. But in the end I never owned a Ibanez guitar and at my rate never will.
JACKSON
- All models including the very entry models feel right to me. Super Starts and then some. Love jacksons Necks and layout of all of their models. I sit down and play and get lost in what I'm playing instead of checking out the model I'm playing. I have owned several over the years and fully love them for many reasons. I always look to Jackson before I decide to buy anything.
I also have a huge thing for Charvel. I also love how they feel and play. Necks just fit my hand very well and I enjoy the tone I get out of most of them ( Except the Pro Mods that came with Dimarizo Pickups , I didn't like them )
I'm gonna open up with a Statement that Guitars are personal and you need to play both camps to see what you really like.
I have die hard Jackson Friends and Die Hard Ibanez Friends. Both love their array of Guitars for personal reasons.
I'm gonna give you my personal experience with both brands.
IBANEZ
- I have played models from $399.00 to $3000.00 and I have not found a single one I would take home and love. They are not comfortable for me , I don't like ht sway they feel in my hand. I hate most of them how they sound as I don't like most of the Pickups they use on a lot of the models. I don't like the Ibanez Trem Systems which seem to be built very well but don't feel right to me.
- I do however really like how most of them look. Even the entry level model look fantastic and why I keep giving them test drives when I see one that appeals to me. But in the end I never owned a Ibanez guitar and at my rate never will.
JACKSON
- All models including the very entry models feel right to me. Super Starts and then some. Love jacksons Necks and layout of all of their models. I sit down and play and get lost in what I'm playing instead of checking out the model I'm playing. I have owned several over the years and fully love them for many reasons. I always look to Jackson before I decide to buy anything.
I also have a huge thing for Charvel. I also love how they feel and play. Necks just fit my hand very well and I enjoy the tone I get out of most of them ( Except the Pro Mods that came with Dimarizo Pickups , I didn't like them )
Brian Griffin
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I personally think that's for cork-sniffing folks. If you want fatness, change the pickup. The sustain block is a myth created by manufacturers to distinguish their stuff from Chinese knockoffs, hence the brass block, etc.
I personally think that's for cork-sniffing folks. If you want fatness, change the pickup. The sustain block is a myth created by manufacturers to distinguish their stuff from Chinese knockoffs, hence the brass block, etc.
p4vl
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This may also be true, and could be the reason that MOST Ibanez users favor Dimarzio's over Duncan's (don't poop all over this poor guy's thread). I don't know if it's Dimarzio catering to the average Ibanez user's tastes or what. It's not always the case: my Trembucker Distortion is sounding a bit thin in my Ibanez but my old blackouts had more than enough bass, they also had a stupid amount of output.
This may also be true, and could be the reason that MOST Ibanez users favor Dimarzio's over Duncan's (don't poop all over this poor guy's thread). I don't know if it's Dimarzio catering to the average Ibanez user's tastes or what. It's not always the case: my Trembucker Distortion is sounding a bit thin in my Ibanez but my old blackouts had more than enough bass, they also had a stupid amount of output.
Dr. Vegetable
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Those VBT's are really amazing guitars. Neck through and fixed bridge. You can find these for reasonable prices (when you can find them at all) and this will be a better guitar than the ones you mention in the OP.
I would seriously look at used guitars if you have any options there. You will save a lot of money and you won't be limiting yourself to current production models. (The VBT700 for example, is no longer produced by Ibanez.) For about the same money as a low-end new guitar, you can get a mid-level used guitar.
In the same vein, you can also find used Ibanez RGT's for about $300 here in the US. This is a very similar neck-thru design, but with an RG body shape.
If you don't use a tremolo, you'll probably be happier with a fixed bridge.
Those VBT's are really amazing guitars. Neck through and fixed bridge. You can find these for reasonable prices (when you can find them at all) and this will be a better guitar than the ones you mention in the OP.
I would seriously look at used guitars if you have any options there. You will save a lot of money and you won't be limiting yourself to current production models. (The VBT700 for example, is no longer produced by Ibanez.) For about the same money as a low-end new guitar, you can get a mid-level used guitar.
In the same vein, you can also find used Ibanez RGT's for about $300 here in the US. This is a very similar neck-thru design, but with an RG body shape.
If you don't use a tremolo, you'll probably be happier with a fixed bridge.
King IzzO)))
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I have and love both, but they're not all that much alike. Jacksons jumbos are huuuuge, and the boards are compound radius. The necks on my XLR and the JDR neck I have are wizard thin, but don't feel like an Ibanez.
Your money always goes further buying used.
I have and love both, but they're not all that much alike. Jacksons jumbos are huuuuge, and the boards are compound radius. The necks on my XLR and the JDR neck I have are wizard thin, but don't feel like an Ibanez.
Your money always goes further buying used.
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