Jazz box setup

JB_From_Hell

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I got my ES-175 back the other day. It had 12-52 flats on it, which I didn’t hate. My favorite jazz guy uses D’Addario Nickel Bronze 13-56, so I stuck a set on, and like the heavier strings better. The action is pretty low for a 70 year old guitar, and it sounds awesome.

what’s your setup?
 
Mine's not nearly as cool as yours. I have D'addario chrome 10's with a wound 3rd on an old MIK Epi LP. 500k pots, 50's wiring, Phat Cat set with alnico IV in the neck.
 
I've used 11-49 Elixirs on my Dot for a long time. I've tried heavier strings, but actually found I didn't like the tone as much . . . it got too deep.
 
9's on all my guitars, solid or hollowbody. I need to bend strings.

You CAN bend heavy strings. They just don't have to be bent as far to go to the same pitch. I used to have a client who played pedal steel licks with strings going up and down simultaneously like Amos Garrett. He used 14's on his Ibanez Lee Ritenour.

I string my Eastman archtops (AR-804 and AR-810) with D'Addario Half Rounds - the action is super low with no finger squeaks and it has THE 60's archtop mellow tone of Wes Montgomery and Tal Farlow..
 
9's on all my guitars, solid or hollowbody. I need to bend strings.

11s with a plain third on 24.75 inch guitars have very bendable strings unless you're tuning up to F# or something. I can't do a two step bend, but 1.5 works on the e, B, or G strings in standard tuning.
 
I’m going to experiment with plain third strings. There’s a noticeable volume drop from the B to the G. I have the pole pieces on the wound strings closer, but I think a thicker G would help, and since I’m actually trying to play jazz with it, monster bends aren’t a consideration.
 
TI Benson .14s are my favorite. Anything smaller and it just feels like a compromise. With the .14s I'm so discouraged from bending that it makes me play differently. It's all mental I'm sure.
 
I used to play the Thomastik flatwound JS112 set (12, 16, 20, 27, 37, 50) and I realized that what I liked was the heavy top / light bottom.

So what I use now is D’Addario chromes ultralight (10-48) but I swap the top two strings so I have 12, 16, 20, 28, 38, 48. This makes most of the strings have a tension around 23.5.

And I play an ES-330.
 
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11s with a plain third on 24.75 inch guitars have very bendable strings unless you're tuning up to F# or something. I can't do a two step bend, but 1.5 works on the e, B, or G strings in standard tuning.

Ever seen Josh Smith’s set? 13-58 with a plain 26 G. When he was a kid, he was using 11s, and someone handed him a guitar to play onstage, strung with 13s. He couldn’t play it, and got really embarrassed, so he went crazy heavy so that would never happen again. He bends those like I do 10s.
 
You CAN bend heavy strings. They just don't have to be bent as far to go to the same pitch.


Not the way I bend them, deep bends with fast vibrato, Peter Green/Danny Kirwan style. I like the EVH quote about string gauge: "Why make it harder than it has to be?"
 
Not the way I bend them, deep bends with fast vibrato, Peter Green/Danny Kirwan style. I like the EVH quote about string gauge: "Why make it harder than it has to be?"

Using light strings makes it harder for me. You do deep bends with fast vibrato, I like to play hard. Anything lighter than 10s in standard feels mushy. If someone hands me a guitar with 9s, I can play it well enough, but I feel more at home with 10-52.

Also, I tried 11-49 on my 175, and it sounds weak.
 
i dont play jazz but i have a '59 guild hollow body, kinda like a es125. usually has a set of chromes 12s, sounds great
 
I swapped the Nickel Bronze for good old XLs, 13-56, and used a random plain 22 I had laying around for the G. The XLs are louder through the pickup than the NB, and the bridge cable G balanced everything out really nicely. I'm using it through AmpliTube on my iPad with the generic "Clean" amp, based on a Fender blackface something with a mid control and reverb, through some goofy 15" bass cab setting. It sounds glorious, and makes me ashamed of how poorly I'm trying to play jazz lines.
 
I tune down a whole step so 12s are enough for it to be fat. Although the mega fatness of 13s is nice too. 11s weren't enough for me for jazz. I like the flatwound thud, but I think I prefer the roundwound zing slightly more.
 
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