Jazz neck to boomy and mushy what's the alternative?

[Ascension]

My Carvin DC127 and have a Perpetual Burn in the Bridge. Need something that's smoother and more open in the neck than my current Jazz preferably in A5. In particular the cleans are boomy and undefined with the Jazz compared to my other 2 DC's with Carvin or Kiesel humbuckers. Love the Perpet in the bridge but don't play this one out as often as I should because of the neck tone.

 

[idsnowdog]

Try short polepieces and an A4 magnet.

 

[Ascension]

Try short polepieces and an A4 magnet.

Thought about the A4 or a A3 like I have in the neck 59 on my Washburn USA MG. Don't know yet.

 

[jeremy]

yeah, short poles and a4 would push it in the right direction. the jazz isnt usually boomy and is pretty open on the top. you could try a fullshred neck, might be just what you are looking for

 

[GuitarDoc]

Man, not my experience with the Jazz in the neck, not at all. Even with the Jazz (b) in the neck! If this is indeed what you are hearing in that guitar, I doubt if changing the mag is going to help enough. Either time to wire it in parallel, time for a completely different pup (single coil), or time for a different guitar.

 

[Artie]

Man, not my experience with the Jazz in the neck . . .

Me too. "Boomy" is about the last word in the dictionary I'd use to describe the Jazz n OR b. I wonder if something else is going on.

 

[Chistopher]

Have you considered lowering the bass side of the pickup from the strings?

 

[Mincer]

I say, grab an A2 magnet, too. It will smooth things out considerably.

 

[formula73]

Bright? L500R

 

[eclecticsynergy]

JazzN isn't generally boomy at all, but of course wood varies enough to defy all expectations sometimes.

I'd blame the A5 myself. A4 is often the perfect fix for a boomy neck; it'll be a tad smoother too.
A2 is creamy smooth but also takes you much further from the original voicing.

 

[Juanhanglo]

Full shred neck or a4 magnet.

The magnet is way cheaper

 

[dave74]

Unless you want the real purty cleans I would say just get a distortion neck. You mostly do shred-leads stuff with the neck?

 

[Ascension]

Unless you want the real purty cleans I would say just get a distortion neck. You mostly do shred-leads stuff with the neck?

No more like open airy chords and some melodic solo stuff. Never had a Jazz before so is a unknown for me. Pickup seems harsh and the bottom to uncompressed and pronounced it's just not smooth and sweet enough. Boomy may be the wrong term. Want more smooth and sweet if possible for nicer cleans but still having a nice singing solo voice. Had a Pearly Gates set in this one at one time and that set in this guitar was way to crunchy bright and harsh. Like the Perpet in the guitar a lot but am fighting with the Jazz. Had ordered a WLH from Banjo Mike on his EBAY close out but there was a mixup and the last WLH had sold on Reverb so I took a Jazz with some $ back instead.

 

[Mincer]

The Jazz has really reduced bass and mids so it is pretty surprising. If you are considering switching out the pickup, look at the Full Shred.

 

[GuitarDoc]

No more like open airy chords and some melodic solo stuff. Never had a Jazz before so is a unknown for me. Pickup seems harsh and the bottom to uncompressed and pronounced it's just not smooth and sweet enough. Boomy may be the wrong term. Want more smooth and sweet if possible for nicer cleans but still having a nice singing solo voice. Had a Pearly Gates set in this one at one time and that set in this guitar was way to crunchy bright and harsh. Like the Perpet in the guitar a lot but am fighting with the Jazz. Had ordered a WLH from Banjo Mike on his EBAY close out but there was a mixup and the last WLH had sold on Reverb so I took a Jazz with some $ back instead.

From what you say you're looking for, and from your experience with the Pearlies, I'd say that the Jazz is your perfect choice. Must be something else going on with your guitar...like was suggested, you should play around with your pup height a bit more. Or you could also put in an A2 mag and have an A2Pro which is just about the epitome of smooth and sweet neck pups. Or an A4 to get in-between the A2 and A5 sounds.

If you still don't like the Jazz, sell it to me, it's one of my favorite neck pups.

 

[Ascension]

From what you say you're looking for, and from your experience with the Pearlies, I'd say that the Jazz is your perfect choice. Must be something else going on with your guitar...like was suggested, you should play around with your pup height a bit more. Or you could also put in an A2 mag and have an A2Pro which is just about the epitome of smooth and sweet neck pups. Or an A4 to get in-between the A2 and A5 sounds.

If you still don't like the Jazz, sell it to me, it's one of my favorite neck pups.

Not the guitar the Jazz just isn't my thing. May take you up on that sale once I figure out what I'm going to. Played my Carvin AE 185 with the SNS set this morning and really like that neck tone. Just don't know how the A 4 neck would jive with the A 5 Perpet A SNS neck really clashed with a Hybrid in another guitar I had so? Just didn't play nice with both on together. Have a couple Sentients in play ( one with a Alt 8 and one with a Hybrid) and a 59 so really want something different here. Have Carvin C22's (J neck B bridge) in one very similar guitar and Kiesel Berylliums in another that I really like also. Considering a Kiesel Frank Gambalie sig but nothing is decided yet. The A 2 swap is also a real possibility as have a couple A2 and A4 mags on hand
It's this guitar and it plays like a dream just haven't found the right pickup combo yet the Perpet flat kills in the bridge though.

 

[Ascension]

This is from Church this morning with my AE 185 and the SNS set. Running my PRS MT 15 here and mostly playing on the neck pickup. The Jazz is just to brash sterile and uncompressed with this same set up. Just isn't sweet full and smooth enough for what I'm doing compared to what's in my other guitars. The A2 swap might be the ticket though as have used Alnico II pros in similar guitars ( Maple neck through Alder body ebony board Carvins) in the past and had good results.

 

[Chistopher]

What do you mean when you say the bottom end is uncompressed

 

[Ascension]

What do you mean when you say the bottom end is uncompressed

To brash and harsh on the full chords overall. In particular clean or with a light crunch. Bottom is abrupt overall not a warm and sweet tone. A full SNS would likely get me much closer but I really like the Perpet tone in the bridge a lot in this particular guitar.The jazz is just not getting me where I need to go in this guitar.

 

[Demanic]

Dude, you shouldn't worry so much about the bottom end. The chords and the single notes ring out just right.