Jazzmaster vs. Jaguar

Re: Jazzmaster vs. Jaguar

I prefer Jags for looks but JMs for sound and playing.

I can't quite get comfy with the fretboard radius though.
 
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I like them both but for different reasons...Jags are kind of thin and bright in a good way while Jazzmasters are much warmer but lack attack and sustain...agian in a good way!

Those trems are only a nightmare if you guitar is not set up properly and you try to use them in a manner other than intended...just remember they are not floyd roses or even Strat style trems and don't have the travel so don;t try it...past that if your guitar is set up correctly with a well cut nut, solid tuners, a good set up, etc you'll be fine. However if you don't wanna use them they have locks on them which make them a paux hardtail...
 
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the guy who invented fire said:
I like them both but for different reasons...Jags are kind of thin and bright in a good way while Jazzmasters are much warmer but lack attack and sustain...agian in a good way!

Those trems are only a nightmare if you guitar is not set up properly and you try to use them in a manner other than intended...just remember they are not floyd roses or even Strat style trems and don't have the travel so don;t try it...past that if your guitar is set up correctly with a well cut nut, solid tuners, a good set up, etc you'll be fine. However if you don't wanna use them they have locks on them which make them a paux hardtail...
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Why do the Jazzmasters lack sustain and not the Jaguars? Different bridges/trems? Or is it simply the pups?
 
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I played a Custom Shop seafoam green Jazz master today. It takes my vote.
 
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I had a 64 Jag and a 65 Jazzmaster.

I hated them both. The primary thing I hated about both was the bridge/vibrato. If I played too "vigorously" the strings would pop out of the saddles. There wasn't enough downward pressure on the saddles. I specifically remember this being an issue with the Jazzmaster. A previous owner had put 2 string trees between the bridge and the tremolo to increase the downward pressure.

Out of the 2, I preferred the switching on the Jazzmaster more than the slide switches of the Jaguar. I also thought the seperate tone circuit was as useless as tits on a bull. Had I known about the Buzz Stop I might still have the Jazzmaster- but probably not. I don't miss either of those guitars.

Note the string trees...

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different sounds but they cover much of the same ground, the jm to me sounds "cooler" and smoother, mellower, while the jag has a brighter, twangier sounds...

i prefer the jag...

as for the locks, they won't lock the trem down completely but prevent tuning problems when a string breaks...

the trem is very setup sensitive, they have about as much range as a vintage strat trem, but operate with quite a different feeling... because of their limitted range they keep tune better than anything short of a locking trem when set up correctly.

to prevent string jumping and increase the range of the trem, as well as increasing sustain and avoiding rattle, the neck ought to be shimmed and the bridge set fairly high to increase the string break angle... just make sure to use the stock bridge as it rocks t compensate for trem useage lol

briefly, as im posting from my phone lol.
 
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Re: Jazzmaster vs. Jaguar

danglybanger said:
different sounds but they cover much of the same ground, the jm to me sounds "cooler" and smoother, mellower, while the jag has a brighter, twangier sounds...
i prefer the jag...
as for the locks, they won't lock the trem down completely but prevent tuning problems when a string breaks...
the trem is very setup sensitive, they have about as much range as a vintage strat trem, but operate with quite a different feeling... because of their limitted range they keep tune better than anything short of a locking trem when set up correctly.
to prevent string jumping and increase the range of the trem, as well as increasing sustain and avoiding rattle, the neck ought to be shimmed and the bridge set fairly high to increase the string break angle... just make sure to use the stock bridge as it rocks t compensate for trem useage lol
briefly, as im posting from my phone lol.
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Sure the lock won't make it a hardtail but if you are not gonna use the trem...lock it dowm it helps.

As for the travel, JM's and Jags have now where near as much travel as a Strat...not by a long shot and I wouldn't compare the tuning stability to that of a locking trem at all...sure, set up right they work just fine FOR WHAT THEY ARE...

Also, shimming the neck and raising the bridge is a band aid...and the wrong one IMO...a Buzz Stop will increase breakover angle and solve the string jumping issue as well as help increase sustain however shimming the neck and raising the bridge just makes the strings too high off the face of the guitar thus making it feel funny plus the lack of contact in the neck pocket now that you've shimmed it kills what little sustain it had to begin with...
 
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jaguars (both the cars and the guitars :D)

mustang bridge mod for me, 'under the bridge is' one of my favourite tones ever!

the 'clanky' cleans, gorgeous!

thank the plank with the spanky clank! :burnout:
 
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the guy who invented fire said:
Sure the lock won't make it a hardtail but if you are not gonna use the trem...lock it dowm it helps.

As for the travel, JM's and Jags have now where near as much travel as a Strat...not by a long shot and I wouldn't compare the tuning stability to that of a locking trem at all...sure, set up right they work just fine FOR WHAT THEY ARE...

Also, shimming the neck and raising the bridge is a band aid...and the wrong one IMO...a Buzz Stop will increase breakover angle and solve the string jumping issue as well as help increase sustain however shimming the neck and raising the bridge just makes the strings too high off the face of the guitar thus making it feel funny plus the lack of contact in the neck pocket now that you've shimmed it kills what little sustain it had to begin with...
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That amount of shimming was necessary originally in order to use the stock mute anyway, and from my experience the shimming doesn't really affect sustain, it is now increased as there is more of a break angle. Not a huge amount of shimming, just slightly more than usual... If you don't like the feel it's probably due to not being a Jag/JM person (not many people are after all).

From my experience the buzzstop just makes the trem operate less efficiently and pushes the bridge forward. As for trem range, I've played tons of incorrectly set up Jags that had near no trem range because the bridge was set too low, if the bridge is raised it approaches 6 screw trem range, and I'll put it against anything short of a floyd for tuning stability. Once I get my tuning pedal back a vid demo might be in order...
 
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