JB + 59n + superswitch wiring help please!
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Lightning
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Re: JB + 59n + superswitch wiring help please!
In post 9 I didn't IIRC correctly I should have said 6 pole.
Back in '77 I wired my LP with a 4 pole 6 position CTS rotary switch with 2 conductor PUs. I later set the stop to 5 positions and rewired without parallel out of phase. Loved series in phase but no other position could keep up volume wise. So in '88 I bought the switch wafers and converted the shaft to 6 pole 4 pos.
Combos are:
1) Neck coils series
2) Neck north Bridge south series
3) Bridge coils series
4) All coils series Bridge reversed polarity for out of phase.
Volume is balanced fairly well in all positions.
It probably took me 10 hrs to come up with the hand drawn diagram. I could scan it, but you'd need a 6 pole sw. I think what Flash wants will require 6 poles and the super switch doesn't provide for adding poles (or changing the number of positions) like the CTS rotary.
Flash I know I said Artie would have you covered but now that I thought about it a little more I'm not sure you can have your requested combinations with just a super switch by itself.
You could use Super Sw with a push pull or sw for front PU (opens up a lot of combinations but…I know man…sometimes you'll have to hit 2 switches to get to a sound) like Frankencat said*, or treat your neck PU as the neck and mid of a strat and the bridge PU as a single PU and any 3 PU Super Sw diagram works.
*A 4 pole 6 position rotary gives you
1) Both series
2) Neck
3) Both par
4) Both par out of phase
5) Bridge
6) Both series out of phase
You'd have to give up one of those combos on the Super Sw but adding two push pulls gives you 18 options and two on/on/on toggles gives you 26.
I think you already knew that...I'm under the impression that you have BTDT and know exactly what you want.
In post 9 I didn't IIRC correctly I should have said 6 pole.
Back in '77 I wired my LP with a 4 pole 6 position CTS rotary switch with 2 conductor PUs. I later set the stop to 5 positions and rewired without parallel out of phase. Loved series in phase but no other position could keep up volume wise. So in '88 I bought the switch wafers and converted the shaft to 6 pole 4 pos.
Combos are:
1) Neck coils series
2) Neck north Bridge south series
3) Bridge coils series
4) All coils series Bridge reversed polarity for out of phase.
Volume is balanced fairly well in all positions.
It probably took me 10 hrs to come up with the hand drawn diagram. I could scan it, but you'd need a 6 pole sw. I think what Flash wants will require 6 poles and the super switch doesn't provide for adding poles (or changing the number of positions) like the CTS rotary.
Flash I know I said Artie would have you covered but now that I thought about it a little more I'm not sure you can have your requested combinations with just a super switch by itself.
You could use Super Sw with a push pull or sw for front PU (opens up a lot of combinations but…I know man…sometimes you'll have to hit 2 switches to get to a sound) like Frankencat said*, or treat your neck PU as the neck and mid of a strat and the bridge PU as a single PU and any 3 PU Super Sw diagram works.
*A 4 pole 6 position rotary gives you
1) Both series
2) Neck
3) Both par
4) Both par out of phase
5) Bridge
6) Both series out of phase
You'd have to give up one of those combos on the Super Sw but adding two push pulls gives you 18 options and two on/on/on toggles gives you 26.
I think you already knew that...I'm under the impression that you have BTDT and know exactly what you want.
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Artie
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Re: JB + 59n + superswitch wiring help please!
Yeah, this is why its taking me so long. I've doodled up a couple things that are close, but I don't like them. I'm going to mess with this some more in the morning, and hopefully get something that makes practical sense.
Hang in there Flash, we'll get this! :smack:
Lightning said:
Yeah, this is why its taking me so long. I've doodled up a couple things that are close, but I don't like them. I'm going to mess with this some more in the morning, and hopefully get something that makes practical sense.
Hang in there Flash, we'll get this! :smack:
skyydogg01
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Re: JB + 59n + superswitch wiring help please!
Flash, what you are looking for is actually how the Ibanez RG421/321 is wired, with the exception of having the Series humbuckers in position 3. here is the diagram:
http://www.ibanez.com/wiring/wire.asp?y=2001&w=RG421
hope this helps.
also, i think you can buy that exact switch from ibanez.
Flash, what you are looking for is actually how the Ibanez RG421/321 is wired, with the exception of having the Series humbuckers in position 3. here is the diagram:
http://www.ibanez.com/wiring/wire.asp?y=2001&w=RG421
hope this helps.
also, i think you can buy that exact switch from ibanez.
Re: JB + 59n + superswitch wiring help please!
Actually you can get away with five poles, there is just that one connection that is being a pain ( It still might be possible to do it with 4 poles, I'm to busy to muck with it right now though)...
I've got two versions of something that Steve Blucher came up with one using DMZ's offset 4P5T lever switches,( although it's not listed on their site), I reengineered it for the super switch, and came up with two versions of it ( a stratish ,and a teleish version) ... it requires that you either you flip the magnet on the neck pup, or rotate the pup 180 degress (adjustable poles towards the bridge), and then swap the neck pup leads around. I've got them drawn up per DiMarzio colour code. The stratish one is the one I think you want ... you get 1) neck series humbucker, 2) neck parallel humbucker, 3) inner series coils, 4) inner parallel coils, 5) bridge series humbucker ... that might be what you're looking for ....FWIW, two humbuckers in parallel hooked in parallel is kinda a lack lustre, non-personality type of tone (IMHO). It's all personal taste but, I've just never found that it *speaks well*.
Flash said:
Actually you can get away with five poles, there is just that one connection that is being a pain ( It still might be possible to do it with 4 poles, I'm to busy to muck with it right now though)...
I've got two versions of something that Steve Blucher came up with one using DMZ's offset 4P5T lever switches,( although it's not listed on their site), I reengineered it for the super switch, and came up with two versions of it ( a stratish ,and a teleish version) ... it requires that you either you flip the magnet on the neck pup, or rotate the pup 180 degress (adjustable poles towards the bridge), and then swap the neck pup leads around. I've got them drawn up per DiMarzio colour code. The stratish one is the one I think you want ... you get 1) neck series humbucker, 2) neck parallel humbucker, 3) inner series coils, 4) inner parallel coils, 5) bridge series humbucker ... that might be what you're looking for ....FWIW, two humbuckers in parallel hooked in parallel is kinda a lack lustre, non-personality type of tone (IMHO). It's all personal taste but, I've just never found that it *speaks well*.
Artie
Peaveyologist
Re: JB + 59n + superswitch wiring help please!
I'm glad that you said that, because thats where I'm hitting a snag. I think I can do this all, except that position. If, on the other hand, you didn't mind having pos #3 being the conventional neck/bridge in humbucking mode, parallel to each other, this will work fairly easily.
Let me know.
Kent S. said:
I'm glad that you said that, because thats where I'm hitting a snag. I think I can do this all, except that position. If, on the other hand, you didn't mind having pos #3 being the conventional neck/bridge in humbucking mode, parallel to each other, this will work fairly easily.
Let me know.
Re: JB + 59n + superswitch wiring help please!
I wouldn't do that as I find that position to be as unattractive as the other ... that's me though, Flash may like that particular tone though ... Have to wait and see what he thinks.
ArtieToo said:I'm glad that you said that, because thats where I'm hitting a snag. I think I can do this all, except that position. If, on the other hand, you didn't mind having pos #3 being the conventional neck/bridge in humbucking mode, parallel to each other, this will work fairly easily.
Let me know.
I wouldn't do that as I find that position to be as unattractive as the other ... that's me though, Flash may like that particular tone though ... Have to wait and see what he thinks.
Re: JB + 59n + superswitch wiring help please!
Whatever you thinks guys, i'm easy. as long as I have neck series, neck parallel, and bridge series, I can do any thing for positions 3 & 4. I just thought of the two humbuckers in parallel fo position 3 mainly due to the fact that I rarely use the 2 humbuckers together in series. But if you guys say it sounds a bit bland, well i'll leave those 2 positions to whatever you guys think sound good and usable
Whatever you thinks guys, i'm easy. as long as I have neck series, neck parallel, and bridge series, I can do any thing for positions 3 & 4. I just thought of the two humbuckers in parallel fo position 3 mainly due to the fact that I rarely use the 2 humbuckers together in series. But if you guys say it sounds a bit bland, well i'll leave those 2 positions to whatever you guys think sound good and usable
Re: JB + 59n + superswitch wiring help please!
Oh yeah, I forgot the teleish version I have is as follows:
1) Neck series humbucker, 2) Parallel outside coils, 3) Series outside coils,
4) Bridge parallel humbucker, 5) Bridge series humbucker ... like the *stratish* version all positions are in phase and hum-cancelling of course. Again these may offer him something close,plus I never did understand exactly what he meant by *n + b* stratty sound ... ah, maybe teleie.
Didn't specify inner coils, outer coil, or one of each, and if so which one for which pup. Let me know Artie if you breech that all parallel problem.
Oh yeah, I forgot the teleish version I have is as follows:
1) Neck series humbucker, 2) Parallel outside coils, 3) Series outside coils,
4) Bridge parallel humbucker, 5) Bridge series humbucker ... like the *stratish* version all positions are in phase and hum-cancelling of course. Again these may offer him something close,plus I never did understand exactly what he meant by *n + b* stratty sound ... ah, maybe teleie.
Didn't specify inner coils, outer coil, or one of each, and if so which one for which pup. Let me know Artie if you breech that all parallel problem.
Re: JB + 59n + superswitch wiring help please!
There really isn't an equal to that, maybe the neck humbucker in parallel, or perhaps the bridge inner coil in parallel with the neck outer coil ... neither one really, but that's as close as you can get to a strat neck /P/ middle type sound.Flash said:oops sorry, i'm my original post I meant neck and middle stratty sound
Re: JB + 59n + superswitch wiring help please!
If you're asking how the superswitch is laid out you can find a layout at
www.stewmac.com under their free info section.
Lightning said:
If you're asking how the superswitch is laid out you can find a layout at
www.stewmac.com under their free info section.
Oldslowhand
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Re: JB + 59n + superswitch wiring help please!
Would it help if you used a push/pull pot for the series/parallel then just worried about the splits and Pickup combos just a thought :22:
Would it help if you used a push/pull pot for the series/parallel then just worried about the splits and Pickup combos just a thought :22:
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