JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

[dvanburen]

Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

there's a reason the JB has been THE model that people have been choosing for over 35 years.

not me man. And not a lot of people..

any man that doesn't like the JB is the same sort of dude that is married to someone that makes him squat to pee.

i'm not married and i piss like a dude. You seem so offended if someone doesnt like the jb. Its ok, but its not that great..

 

[Mad-Max]

Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

Distortion would be a gnarly choice but it's cleans are a little too sharp for my taste, and maybe yours. In December I'm making a custom shop pickup that tries to take the eq curve and response of the Pearly Gates but brings it to the JB's output level, so similar to a dimebucker but less compressed but with a more raw vintage flavor and warmth. If you're willing to pay double for the pickup from the custom shop you're more than welcome to that design. Or you could also try the Custom 8. People love it here.

Couldn't I mess with the screws too? Maybe swap a row out for some Hex Screws to possibly tighten it up a little bit?

 

[Falloffthebonetone]

Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

Couldn't I mess with the screws too? Maybe swap a row out for some Hex Screws to possibly tighten it up a little bit?

Yep, people do that too. But frankly dude, at stage volumes, the sponginess of the JB dissipates and it sounds just as tight as anything else. At least in my experience.

 

[Mad-Max]

Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

Yep, people do that too. But frankly dude, at stage volumes, the sponginess of the JB dissipates and it sounds just as tight as anything else. At least in my experience.

That's why I said that I can deal with the sponginess, but making it tighter would help enhance the tightness it better. I mean, my Mesa is already extremely tight as it is, so I wouldn't have any problem with tightness, but tightening the JB up would definitely help if I were playing on different amps and such, depending on which amp.

I'm still torn on whether the JB would be too bright in the guitar I'm considering changing the pickups in.

 

[Falloffthebonetone]

Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

That's why I said that I can deal with the sponginess, but making it tighter would help enhance the tightness it better. I mean, my Mesa is already extremely tight as it is, so I wouldn't have any problem with tightness, but tightening the JB up would definitely help if I were playing on different amps and such, depending on which amp.

I'm still torn on whether the JB would be too bright in the guitar I'm considering changing the pickups in.

Try what's already been suggested first and flip the 81 and 85's positions and see if that doesn't work wonders for you first. Then if not, give the JB a try. If you can't stand the JB then try 250k pots. If you can't stand that then raise the screw side polepieces a little more and lower the pickup slightly to diminish a little bass. Then if that does't work add the hex poles after taking out the screws. Then if that doesn't work add a metal pickup cover on it to dim the highs and output. And if that doesn't work switch magnets and pots around until it does. And if that doesn't work buy Dimarzio.

 

[Mad-Max]

Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

Try what's already been suggested first and flip the 81 and 85's positions and see if that doesn't work wonders for you first. Then if not, give the JB a try. If you can't stand the JB then try 250k pots. If you can't stand that then raise the screw side polepieces a little more and lower the pickup slightly to diminish a little bass. Then if that does't work add the hex poles after taking out the screws. Then if that doesn't work add a metal pickup cover on it to dim the highs and output. And if that doesn't work switch magnets and pots around until it does. And if that doesn't work buy Dimarzio.

I can't say that I'll not stand the JB, because I like the tone it gives, and I've heard it perform successfully in guitars similar to mine, but I guess it's just a matter of trying it for myself.

I'm thinking maybe I can put the Hex screws in it to tighten it up, and then use some 250K pots to tame any access high end I might run into.

 

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Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

does the guitar have a floyd or a TOM?

if you already have a JB in the other guitar, have you considered a distortion, demon, etc in this one? IMO, they cut through in a similar way and are a little more and a little less than a JB, respectively. both do surprisingly good cleans too

 

[dvanburen]

Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

The JB is awesome.

its ok. i like it in superstrats. hate it in about everything else. Do you not hear the midrange honk in that pickup?

The Custom isn't fit to lick the JB's beanbag.

Dude, the jb's low end sucks ass. its flubby and non-existent comparted to the custom. Do you not hear that either? I figured you would considering you seem to think you are the messiah of tone with your cute little JB..

Anyone who had crappy tone should pull that Custom out and put a JB in there instead.

i say the same thing but i swap the words jb and custom in that sentence. because the jb has a weird midrange thing. and the low end is flabby and weak

The JB doesn't work for someone, let me introduce them to these little knobs on the amp that affect tone. Tone is that thing that people that hate the JB know nothing about when they get off the short bus for their gig playing at the Tick-Tock Inn down next the interstate on the county line where Miller Lite really is considered champagne.

Naw man naw. My custom can kick your jb's ass man. I aint gonna stand for this bull crap. This is "Merica dude. I'm going down to the tick tock inn and im gonna be gettin' all gussied up on Millier lites, then me and you's gonna have it out over this one dood!! U better get ready honky, I'm gonna warm up yer damn forehead!...

ha ha, I love how pissed off you get when someone disses on your precious! Your funny man. Cheers

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[Rand-O-Monium]

Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

If /when you swap teh EMGs,try a 60 @ the nk...

 

[darthphineas]

Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

its ok. i like it in superstrats. hate it in about everything else. Do you not hear the midrange honk in that pickup?

Dude, the jb's low end sucks ass. its flubby and non-existent comparted to the custom. Do you not hear that either? I figured you would considering you seem to think you are the messiah of tone with your cute little JB..



i say the same thing but i swap the words jb and custom in that sentence. because the jb has a weird midrange thing. and the low end is flabby and weak



Naw man naw. My custom can kick your jb's ass man. I aint gonna stand for this bull crap. This is "Merica dude. I'm going down to the tick tock inn and im gonna be gettin' all gussied up on Millier lites, then me and you's gonna have it out over this one dood!! U better get ready honky, I'm gonna warm up yer damn forehead!...

ha ha, I love how pissed off you get when someone disses on your precious! Your funny man. Cheers

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[Mad-Max]

Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

does the guitar have a floyd or a TOM?

if you already have a JB in the other guitar, have you considered a distortion, demon, etc in this one? IMO, they cut through in a similar way and are a little more and a little less than a JB, respectively. both do surprisingly good cleans too

See, my thoughts were to change it up and do something different this time with this guitar, and maybe improve a couple of things in my tone. But, then the other day I thought to myself, "If I like the JB, then why not try it out on the new one and see how it goes? and then figure out what it needs".

Just gathering up some ideas. I REALLY like the Distortion, but I'm afraid that it might have too much high end for my taste, and that's what I'm trying to ultimately suppress in this guitar, along with having a more articulate tone because the EMG 81 sounds like mess to me, even with my Mark V.

 

[Falloffthebonetone]

Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

Come to the DARKSIDE! JB Master Race. Also the mid honk and loose low end is easily tamed. ESPECIALLY at appropriate performance volumes. Also adding 250k pots THEN putting in the hex screws will just compress the character out of the pickup because the highs and some lows are both chopped off now leaving only the lower mid range. I think you're a little too paranoid about the JB. Try the Gravity Storm from Dimarzio honestly, it has amazing warmer cleans with a FAT single coil snap like high end, probably better than the JB and the exact non harsh highs you're looking for with an awesome throaty midrange and tighter pick response for bass.

 

[darthphineas]

Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

See, my thoughts were to change it up and do something different this time with this guitar, and maybe improve a couple of things in my tone. But, then the other day I thought to myself, "If I like the JB, then why not try it out on the new one and see how it goes? and then figure out what it needs".

Just gathering up some ideas. I REALLY like the Distortion, but I'm afraid that it might have too much high end for my taste, and that's what I'm trying to ultimately suppress in this guitar, along with having a more articulate tone because the EMG 81 sounds like mess to me, even with my Mark V.

JB and DD are the same coils with different magnets. what you can also try is a JB with a small ceramic instead of the big one from the DD. give you a bit of middle ground. AND IT'LL STILL SOUND BETTER THAN A CUSTOM!!! neener neener!

 

[dvanburen]

Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

JB and DD are the same coils with different magnets.

they are not the same pickup!! put an a5 in the DD and it is not a JB. the eq on the JB is exaggerated on the upper mids. some like it, some dont (me). The DD has something accentuated a little higher up on the spectrum around 14-17k to my ears. Its more fizzy. I think the JB is hotter than the distortion, let alone much anything else. The JB with A8, ceramic ect is just too damn hot. and i play aggressive styles of music. There is no dynamic to me. Jb sounds like a modern hotrodded pickup by design. never tried it with a thick ceramic from the DD. so i cant comment. I like the big ceramic much better than the small one tho so it might be cool. Custom 8 and custom with big ceramic blow loads all over the JB.. I like stock jb better than c5 or cc. other than that, custom wins all the way around. more versatile and takes mag swaps better. aaannddd....THE BOTTOM END IS MUCH BIGGER AND TIGHTER with the custom. I certainly dont want loose flubby bottom end in my rig. That characteristic is more apparent in mahogany guitars rather than alder or ash which the Jb sounds pretty good.

custom/jb hybrid a5 is a winner tho. so is custom/jb a8 and ceramic. but again, jb is too hot for these strong mags unless you want screaming and yelling and loudness all the time. sounds cool for a while tho

Again this is just my personal opinion based off experience. nothing more

 

[dvanburen]

Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

and hence the title of this thread.. I love the distortion, but could not stand it with ebony board. same with the jb(but it was mahogany body there). On the other hand I had an esp eclipse ii snow white les paul style with mohagany body, ebony fretboard and the sh-5 custom bridge and 59n was amazing sounding. everyone who played that guitar couldnt put it down. Just goes to show that no pickup is perfect and there are so many variables to making your rig sound the way you want.

 

[darthphineas]

Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

they are not the same pickup!!

Yes they are. Don't be all hatin', playa.

JB. DD. invader. All the same coil. Different mags and/or pole pieces.

Like the A2P and the Jazz are the same coil with different mags. And all those Custom variants are the same coil with different mags. The Full Shred falls in there somewhere too as another variant.



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Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

^ i used to think that, now i think the DD has a few more winds on it. like the C5 has a few more than the CC or SH5

OP, floyd or tuneomatic?

 

[Falloffthebonetone]

Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

There also seems to be this notion that a tighter bottom end is unanimously a better one. Where the hell did that come from? I think it makes stuff sound sterile for the most part. And darth. I c wat u did ther.

 

[Mad-Max]

Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

^ i used to think that, now i think the DD has a few more winds on it. like the C5 has a few more than the CC or SH5

OP, floyd or tuneomatic?

Floyd

 

[dinnocenzo-guitars]

Re: JB in an Alder body, with Maple Neck and Ebony Fretboard

MJ wound JB "roughcast" A5 in alder / maple
http://youtu.be/5y-j9RjUoN0