JB with Covers?

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fretburner said:
Can I put nickel covers on a JB? If yes, how does that change the tone/sound of the JB?

Thanks!
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do a search on the forum, you will find lots of different opinions on this...I will say this...if your ears are good enough to hear it, then it makes a difference. I thiknkit does make a difference, a mild one but yes.
 
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Will do so.

Nwy, I was asking coz some guy is selling his JB at a good price. I'm not keen on buying it as of the moment though because I'm not yet sure if my friend will sell me his Orville at the end of the month. That Orville I think has a 57 pup on the neck, but the bridge is already broken and have to replace it. So if ever, I will put a JB on that and put a cover on.

Thanks!
 
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I think a cover cuts the treble just a bit, but I must say I can only quote other people because I never had a covered one...
 
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fretburner said:
Cutting the treble a bit doesn't mean It's harder to hit those pinch harmonics right?
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Nope, not at all. There is a tiny bit of change in tone but barely noticeable. I've just recently change all the uncovered SD pickups on all of my Gibson Les Pauls to covered ones ( same models '59/JB except my 1998 Standard with Pearly Gates/C-5 ), and they basically pump out the same tone but a bit smoother to my ear. Just like forum member lew describes it being a bit less aggressive.
Cheers Bro! Hope everything's well in the Philippines :)
 
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i've heard stuff about the cover acting as sheilding, reducing hum a bit as opposed to open coils?

and whenever i see a duncan going cheap, i buy it lol - either i love it, or i trade it out for something else i wanna try :D

tom
 
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I posted this in a similar thread about pickup covers. Here's what's going on:
The non-porous material that SD use for the Covers were specifically selected because it does not affect the tone of the pickup. The original pickup covers that Gibson used in the original PAF in the '50's were made out of pressed sheet metal that made them good conductors. Not good. The Humbucker was first designed to have a metal cover to help shield against external noise. It is connected to the outer shielding of the pickup lead wire via the base plate, which also acts like a shield. This way, the external noise can be trapped by the cover and routed to the ground. This method is highly effective, but there is one drawback: ''stray capacitance'' appears between the cover and the coil. On the structure of the humbucker, although unintended, the cover and the coils are laid out in such a way as to create a capacitor. The resulting unintensional capacitance is called ''stray capacitance'', and it is extremely small in value. In this situation, certain upper frequencies of the signal produced by the strings may leak from the coil to the cover and eventually go to the ground. The cover is acting as a tone filter, making the sound less bright. If we reverse this effect, removal of the cover may make the sound sharper and brighter. This is because the leak is stopped. All the high frequencies which were otherwise thrown out would come back to life. Players were able to gain more clarity by removing the covers. That's why when Eric Clapton and Greg Allman took the covers off from their LP's pickups experienced significant amount of tone improvements. Countless other famous artist did the same thing. Even Page and Beck did the same after seeing Clapton do this.
Nowadays, modern covered humbuckers don't suffer anymore from high end loss because of the quality and type of non-conductor material used on making the covers ( German Nickel ). I, personally prefer covered humbuckers simply because to me, they give my Les Pauls more of the Vintage appeal. Specially now that the covers are made 100 times better than the old ones and does not significantly affect the tone anymore.
Hope this helps.
 
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I guitarist in a local band has done exactly that with a JB. He thinks it cuts trebel a tiny bit, but thats about it.
 
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fretburner said:
Can I put nickel covers on a JB? If yes, how does that change the tone/sound of the JB?

Thanks!
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I just bought a JB w/ Nickel cover from Lew. Its being installed as we speak in my PRS Custom 22. I'll let you know how it sounds once its in. I would have preferred to get an uncovered JB, but I didnt want to ugly up my PRS.

JQ
 
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I'm going to order a covered '59 (and some other stuff) from Lew today or tomorrow... I'm really curious about how it sounds...
 
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Old Ghost said:
Nope, not at all. There is a tiny bit of change in tone but barely noticeable. I've just recently change all the uncovered SD pickups on all of my Gibson Les Pauls to covered ones ( same models '59/JB except my 1998 Standard with Pearly Gates/C-5 ), and they basically pump out the same tone but a bit smoother to my ear. Just like forum member lew describes it being a bit less aggressive.
Cheers Bro! Hope everything's well in the Philippines :)
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It's the summer here and it gets really hot, i.e. 38 deg C occassionally (around 100 deg Fahrenheit)... I'm glad I'm inside the office (21-22 deg C) when it reaches that temp... and, I'm going to Boracay next week! Woohoo!!! http://www.boracayonline.com/gallery/scenery.html

So yeah, it's good :)



Nwy, I may not be able to get Duncan Covers for that. Most likely, I'll be buying Allparts covers. Are they any good?

Thanks!
 
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fretburner said:
It's the summer here and it gets really hot, i.e. 38 deg C occassionally (around 100 deg Fahrenheit)... I'm glad I'm inside the office (21-22 deg C) when it reaches that temp... and, I'm going to Boracay next week! Woohoo!!! http://www.boracayonline.com/gallery/scenery.html

So yeah, it's good :)
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That's good to hear! You lucky sonofagun :D :crying: :beerchug: That place is awesome!! I've been to the Philippines only once about ten years ago. I remember how beautiful the beaches were! (and the ladies of course :naughty: :) :dance: ).
 
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I have a covered JB and I have nothing to complain on. I never tried it uncovered but I delivers exactly what it's advertised.
 
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Old Ghost said:
That's good to hear! You lucky sonofagun :D :crying: :beerchug: That place is awesome!! I've been to the Philippines only once about ten years ago. I remember how beautiful the beaches were! (and the ladies of course :naughty: :) :dance: ).
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Haha! Yeah, I guess I'm lucky. I sure will check out the chics for you man! Post pix even :)

We already booked for a nice full body massage btw. I'm not sure about snorkeling. :)



Thanks Kommerz!



A Duncan JB with an allparts cover shouldn't sound too different if it was an orgi duncan cover right?
 
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