Jerry Cantrell wah has arrived...

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i guess i should note before i go into detail with this wah that i collect wahs and mod them and have owned or at least played most of the wahs from boutique and big companies that are out there now. so i'm a bit of a wah junkie to say the least.

i've been following this wah since i first heard a rumor of it way back when and i had an order placed for it as soon as i possibly could and today it arrived. i've always been a big AiC and Cantrell fan and had a feeling he'd come up with something good when given the chance to do a signature wah and i think he did just that. when it comes to aesthetics it's very cool aged copper finish with a bit of factory relicing and wear which looks great IMO. the tread pad is a nice touch and not too over the top or tacky looking.

as for the circuit it much simpler than i thought it would be, it's based on the standard GCB95 with Jerry's own twists to achieve the tone he was looking for. those changes are simple but effective in changing its voice from the standard GCB95. the sweep cap value is increased giving it a deeper voice (not as deep as the wylde which can be a bit muddy in some cases) and connected to the main pot is an external pot which alters the sweep in a different way than normally associated with external knobs. it's not a typical notched switch that changes the sweep cap value thus changing the wahs vocal range like the 535Q or DB01. it's instead a smooth turning pot where you can adjust the toe down bite from full on which cuts great or real mellow if you don't want the top end to be as bright. similar to one of the features on the DB01 wah but the range seems to be a bit greater making it a bit more tweakable. this feature i found very handy depending on the playing style i was going for. for a high gain metal lead with it all the way up you can really get notes to cut through and scream. on a clean tone though roll it back and you don't get that real spikey top end that can be downright painful and harsh to your ears from some wahs out there.

all in all i'm happy with it and it's a nice change on a classic wah circuit with enough of a twist to give it its own character in the line of Dunlop wahs. to compare it to two others when it comes to its vocal range i'd say it sits vocally between the GCB95 and the Wylde wah in terms of how deep it can get which IMO is perfect since the Wylde wah as i mentioned can be a bit muddy and dark in some cases and the GCB95 a bit too bright and lacking that nice chewy tone. then factor in the addition of the adjustable toe down top end via the external knob and that too sets it apart and lets you fine tune the part of the wah i've often heard people complain about as either not cutting enough or being too bright and harsh...so now you can fix that.

unfortunately i don't have any way to record good quality clips and i won't do the wah a disservice by doing clips with poor sound quality or anything like that. so for now you'll just have to make due with some pics as you wait for some audio/video reviews from others....sorry.

so here's some pics...

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-Mike
 
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Cool review. Sounds like it might be good for me.. I HATE wahs with a super sharp high end.. I had a bad horsie and just couldnt gel with it at all. My Vox 847 is better, but Im not 100% sold on it.. Plus Cantrell is just Kewl... Man is the box is smokin..
 
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if you want to tweak the top end and roll it off a bit to tame the harshness then this will do it for you for sure.

-Mike
 
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Interesting about the knob. I modded mine some years ago with a fairly low-value pot from an old pedal of some sort sticking out the side to tame the harshness in a similar manner (easy-sweep, not notched). Dunno what value it was/is (took it off a couple of years ago and haven't seen it since :lol: ) but I guess I should see what I can do with different external pots.
 
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The knobs a great idea for taming it!
 
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Certainly looks the business.
 
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glad to hear you like it. i am planning on picking one up when i get the cash. who knows maybe it will knock my CAE wah off my board.
 
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i'll be honest, i doubt it will boot the MXR/CAE off the board. IMO that's probably the best sounding wah out there now including the boutique stuff (modded wahs not included). however this one is high on my list of likes and of all the wahs dunlop makes based off the GCB95 circuit which are the 95, the classic, the wylde, the hendrix and this (i think that's all of them and the EVH is different enough and uses a different board, pot and inductor to be considered it's own thing) i think it's the best sounding of that group of similar wahs.

-Mike
 
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cool yeah i really like the CAE wah. i really like being able to switch between the inductors. it will be nice to have 2 different wahs to choose between. plus it will make a nice little addition to my rampage. which i hope to get back from g&l soon.
 
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when it comes to the CAE the inductor switch tonal change isn't really all inductor. sure they're playing a factor in it however the big change is that when you go to red it changes the sweep cap to somewhere in the .022 range making the sweep rage as deep as 250Hz. then when you switch to the yellow inductor the sweep cap also changes to somewhere in the .015 or .012 range bringing the toe up bottom end range in the 400Hz ballpark making it a bit brighter.

that said, the JC wah sits between the red and yellow settings on the CAE wah in terms of it's sweep range and bottom end in the mid to upper 3XXHz range. so if you'd like a wah that falls between both settings on the CAE you'd dig the JC. however it doesn't have the Q adjustment and has less of a vocal like "wow" or quack some call it to the voice. i tend to like a bit more "wow" than "wah" in some cases which is why i like the CAE and KH wahs a bit more since they seem to up the Q resistor a bit giving that more wow like voice.

in terms of the sweep range and chunk VS mush the JC is in a real sweet spot, perhaps a hair lower would be nice but it certainly has low end growl and chunk however it's not as low as the wylde wah which is way too dark at times. again, the KH wah hits the mark there for me a bit better since it's a bit darker than the JC but brighter than the Wylde.

i think by upping the Q resistor or adding a variable pot to it the JC would really be great. it's a real simple mod to do but i'm not sure if i want to mod mine or just leave it alone.

i've modded a whole bunch of GCB95s in various different ways so i know how to achieve the wah tone i like. however doing that to the JC wah would sort of negate the point of it being Jerry's signature wah if i gave it my voice. so i think i'll leave mine alone since it is real cool as is and still IMO the best of the wahs that share that same GCB95 board.

-Mike
 
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I bought the CAE wah cuz of this guy lol... and it is AWESOME... sorry for the plug. I use the Red for high gain and the yellow for hendrixy stuff... then the boost if I want a blue light on lol.
 
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the CAE is a real cool wah and i constantly praise it since it has some great tones in it for sure!

-Mike
 
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Hey man how about taking the cover off that baby and letting us see what it look's like under the hood. I would like to see how that knob is connected to the pot I might try to mod my Dunlop JH-1B like that.

Man-in-moon.
Sorry I never got back to you I've been busy painting and moving into our new house. Did you get everything taken care of with your G&L Rampage???
 
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when it comes to the CAE the inductor switch tonal change isn't really all inductor. sure they're playing a factor in it however the big change is that when you go to red it changes the sweep cap to somewhere in the .022 range making the sweep rage as deep as 250Hz. then when you switch to the yellow inductor the sweep cap also changes to somewhere in the .015 or .012 range bringing the toe up bottom end range in the 400Hz ballpark making it a bit brighter.

that said, the JC wah sits between the red and yellow settings on the CAE wah in terms of it's sweep range and bottom end in the mid to upper 3XXHz range. so if you'd like a wah that falls between both settings on the CAE you'd dig the JC. however it doesn't have the Q adjustment and has less of a vocal like "wow" or quack some call it to the voice. i tend to like a bit more "wow" than "wah" in some cases which is why i like the CAE and KH wahs a bit more since they seem to up the Q resistor a bit giving that more wow like voice.

in terms of the sweep range and chunk VS mush the JC is in a real sweet spot, perhaps a hair lower would be nice but it certainly has low end growl and chunk however it's not as low as the wylde wah which is way too dark at times. again, the KH wah hits the mark there for me a bit better since it's a bit darker than the JC but brighter than the Wylde.

i think by upping the Q resistor or adding a variable pot to it the JC would really be great. it's a real simple mod to do but i'm not sure if i want to mod mine or just leave it alone.

i've modded a whole bunch of GCB95s in various different ways so i know how to achieve the wah tone i like. however doing that to the JC wah would sort of negate the point of it being Jerry's signature wah if i gave it my voice. so i think i'll leave mine alone since it is real cool as is and still IMO the best of the wahs that share that same GCB95 board.

-Mike

Thanks for the wah reviews and comparisons Mike....I've listened to the Cantrell wah and the CAE on youtube...I like the CAE as I think it slightly edges the other wah out,plus I Like the dual inductors and the tweak factor on the CAE...On the CAE it's like I prefer the yellow fasel over the red...Like yourself,I too prefer the Q resistances to be between 68 and 100k to get more vocalness from the wah....I guess if I owned the CAE,I'd have to tweak the red fasel side a bit...It's a bit dark and not as quacky as the yellow side..Another nice wah for the money,is the 67 BBE Halo wah...I've seen these going for as low as $75 on E Bay...I Love wahs also Mike!
 
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i am definitely going to have to try one of these as soon as i can find one in stock. the thing i find odd about signature gear is half of the time the artist does not use it. cantrell tested the wah on the road and used it some. but the last pic o saw of his rig with the all marsha amps. he was using a crybaby rack wah. i will still buy one if for nothing else i think it looks real cool.


Man-in-moon.
Sorry I never got back to you I've been busy painting and moving into our new house. Did you get everything taken care of with your G&L Rampage???[/QUOTE]


thats cool yeah i got in touch with G&L i had to send it to them to be tweaked. when i talked to chris he said jerry had brought some of his in because of the same problem. he said they came up with some mods that fixes the tuning problem so hopefully i will have it back before long. they have had it a week now.
on a side not i did not know G&L was in with BBE until i called them.
 
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the guts are nothing special to be honest since as i said it shares the circuit with several other popular dunlop wahs that are based off the original GCB95 circuit which is HIGHLY moddable. here's the guts...

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STRATDELUXER97....no problem on the reviews. i actually have owned or currently own almost all of the wahs dunlop makes so i know them all pretty well. i've also tried loads of mods to the good old GCB95 to know i like a .015 for the sweep and 56K for the Q in most cases. i find with high gain if you go too high with the Q the wah won't cut as well so i have to balance the wah with the wow so it works well for clean, mid gain and high gain. the CAE has internal Q pots for both inductors so it's easy to crank up the Q, i did that on mine. however it's all surface mount components so swapping the sweep caps will be quite tricky...but doable if you're quick and don't over heat the board...i'm sure you could handle it. i love the CAE wah but i tend to use the hammet wah more since it falls between the red and yellow settings on the CAE well as far as sweep and has extra Q for more wow but not too much to get sloppy under gain. i guess when you never turn your wah off like KH you have to make it sound good when it's on hahaha. i want to check out one of those BBE wahs for sure, along with the buddy guy and ernie ball wahs too.

man-in-moon...i'd consider checking one out since it's a cool variation from the others out there but not something crazy different out of left field. yeah i saw the pics of his rack with the rack wah back in. he's honestly always been known to use lots of wahs so it's not surprising really. i think the sig wah is sort of the cover all the bases but not 100% nail each one, something to cover lots of ground well and compromise in a few areas. i've seen pics of him using 535Q, dime wah, hendrix wah and other unknown modded crybabies too. so like me he seems to be a wah junkie haha.

-Mike
 
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i may start buying up some wahs. since i like to change things up from time to time. i have been hearing good things about the KH sig wah as well. i can see it now by the time i am done i will be over run with od pedals and wahs lol.
 
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