Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

[The Golden Boy]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

That's weird....I could have swore the part about the stacks and Plant just singing in the middle of the room was in that article. Maybe it was in the JPJ article? Gosh darn, I know I read it somewhere, lol.

There's spelling errors and lack of capitalization and everything... It could have been left out in that 'transcription' of the interview.

 

[Falstaff]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

As I recall, that record was done with pretty much just the live rig, so that would rule out the Supro (but not anything at whatever studio they happened to be at).

Yeah, IIRC that album was recorded while they were on tour of the USA.

 

[The Golden Boy]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

That's weird....I could have swore the part about the stacks and Plant just singing in the middle of the room was in that article. Maybe it was in the JPJ article? Gosh darn, I know I read it somewhere, lol.

I re-read this, and now I seem to recall this being at Mystic studios. It's somewhere in that 1986 Jimmy Page Guitar World issue.

 

[Stratman]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

Jimmy Page revived the Les Paul - Otherwise, Gison would have cancelled production. In the late 60's, you could buy a Les Paul for dirt. Nobody wanted them because they were too heavy, then comes along - Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton... Rest is history Sales jumped! Prices when up, Up, UP!

Hendrix did the same for the Stratocaster!


All in all, in the hands of a professional - a telecaster is just as good as a stratocaster as is a les paul. The rest is tonal differences.

















Now watch the flash post, young blood's arguements begin!

 

[LesStrat]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

The weird thing is that I never was a big LZ fan. I liked most of what I've heard, but I've only owned the 4th album on cassette. Nothing else.

I love the Dregs version of Kashmir, though.

 

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

A note about the solo...

I do believe Jimmy kicks in a wah-wah at the very beginning of the solo, and leaves it somewhere in mid-position for the remainder of it. You can hear the wah go from heel toward toe in the first couple notes.

That's my theory.

- Keith

 

[WhoFan]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

In the main intro piece, the guitar. I hear something fuzzy. You don't hear any fuzz? It must ear drum breakup that I'm hearing...

E|------------------------------|----------------------------------|
B|------------------------------|----------------------------------|
G|------------------------------|----------------------------------|
D|---0----0--2-------2-------2--|-------2-------2-------2-------2--|
A|-2----2-----------------------|----------------------------------|
E|-------------0-0-0---0-0-0----|-0-0-0---0-0-0---0-0-0---0-0-0----|

e ---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
B ---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
G -----------------9--------9--------9---------------------------------------|
D -----------------9--------9--------9---------------------------------------|
A --------5----5---7--------7--------7---------------------------------------|
E --(5)>7----7-------0-0-0----0-0-0------------------------------------------|

You don't hear any fuzz? Really?

(As far as getting the sound right of the main riff... besides equipment) there is a cool little bend to the 5th fret A string note... Jimmy bends it slightly sharp and plays the open D string as well... so the D note at the 5th fret is bent just slightly sharp and play the open D string at the same time... This is a very cool part of the riff and is often forgotten about.... But after i read and interview with Jimmy and he explained that part of the riff it made sense after i tried it..

It makes all the difference... That slight bit of out of tune-ness on those D notes makes it sound thick!!!!

 

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

Yeah, I read about that little double-D trick as well. He definitely does it. I never noticed till I heard about it, and now it's unmistakable.

- Keith

 

[WhoFan]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

Yeah, I read about that little double-D trick as well. He definitely does it. I never noticed till I heard about it, and now it's unmistakable.

- Keith

ya it makes a world of difference.... gives a sound like the one note was multitracked

 

[flank]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

the out of phase option on my tele gets quite a remarkable copy of the solo tone.

 

[The Golden Boy]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

Jimmy Page revived the Les Paul - Otherwise, Gison would have cancelled production. In the late 60's, you could buy a Les Paul for dirt. Nobody wanted them because they were too heavy, then comes along - Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton... Rest is history Sales jumped! Prices when up, Up, UP!

Now watch the flash post, young blood's arguements begin!

Here's the "young blood" argument...

Production on single cutaway Les Pauls stopped in 1961 (the Customs were the last SC LPs- otherwise "Standards" stopped in 60) and all Les Paul production stopped in 1963. If there's anybody responsible for "reviving" the Les Paul, it was either Mike Bloomfield or Clapton. Production for Les Pauls started again in 1968- Jimmy Page didn't get his #1 LP until spring of 1969 (He did have the 3 pickup black Custom- but it was always a backup).

I will agree that Page is the most "famous" supporter of the Les Paul, and probably has sold more LPs than anyone else.

 

[Guitar Toad]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

What was Gibson selling mostly hollowbodies then in the 60's? ES-335's et al?

 

[LJ King]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

Of course it would probably be inappropriate of me to mention that Jimmy Page did use one solid state VOX amp, in addition to a 100 watt Marshall during the recording sessions of Led Zepplin II. So I won't say that.

But he did tour and use solid state Rickenbacker Transonic amps during their first American tour. These same amps were also used by Steppenwolf, Jeff Beck, Strawberry Alarm Clock, and many others.

Can you doubt that that face and expression is not one of loving his tone?

For some reason, Rickenbacker solid state amps didn't receive the same complaints as other makers of solid state equipment. At least not at the time. I'd personally love to find one of these transonic amps!!

 

[thespricket]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

im a bit of a page nut...
i have an interview in front of me from a guitar world legends Led Zeppelin issue. It says that he used 100 watt marshalls maxed out, and used with no pedal's. just the amps distortion. As for a guitar, its not the tele, it was a les paul. not the 59 he was famous for, he hadnt even bought it yet. he was using a black beauty, so he says. And the solo was with the wah turned on and left on the down position.

this is straight from the horse's mouth.

 

[thespricket]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

But he did tour and use solid state Rickenbacker Transonic amps during their first American tour. These same amps were also used by Steppenwolf, Jeff Beck, Strawberry Alarm Clock, and many others.

For some reason, Rickenbacker solid state amps didn't receive the same complaints as other makers of solid state equipment. At least not at the time. I'd personally love to find one of these transonic amps!!

he also used Orange amps then too. I heard from a cool old guy in a music shop that he saw them when they first toured the states. He said it was the first time he'd seen Orange amps. it sounds like he used a bunch of stuff.

i agree with the SS thing. Back then it wasnt common for people to use SS amps, cuz they were just introduced. then eventually i guess they just figured out that the real sound the want is comming from the tubes.

 

[LJ King]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

he also used Orange amps then too. I heard from a cool old guy in a music shop that he saw them when they first toured the states. He said it was the first time he'd seen Orange amps. it sounds like he used a bunch of stuff.

i agree with the SS thing. Back then it wasnt common for people to use SS amps, cuz they were just introduced. then eventually i guess they just figured out that the real sound the want is comming from the tubes.

Yes I totally agree!!:bigok:

The real sound is only available with real tube equipment!! :dance:

Everybody should know that and hopefully all of this will help them to realize it!! :fingersx:

Just waiting around for the prices of all those undesirable SS amps to reduce to a point where I can pick them up really cheap :smokin:

 

[fingerace]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

A note about the solo...

I do believe Jimmy kicks in a wah-wah at the very beginning of the solo, and leaves it somewhere in mid-position for the remainder of it. You can hear the wah go from heel toward toe in the first couple notes.

That's my theory.

- Keith

Definately... I agree.

This song has many "weird" sounds. I never sat down to analyze it or think about it, but it sure is unique.

 

[wahwah]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

Well for starters it sounds very much like the opening riff is double tracked, there are two parts playing and at least one of them sounds like a small amp cranked and close mic'd, which was probably the overdub. One of the tracks is being sent into a plate reverb which appears in the other (right hand) side of the mix about quarter of a second after the original signal. The other track is dry as a bone and right in your face. The slight "out of tune-ness" is due to the double tracking. Mighty stuff.


Cheers..........wahwah

 

[WhoFan]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

Of course it would probably be inappropriate of me to mention that Jimmy Page did use one solid state VOX amp, in addition to a 100 watt Marshall during the recording sessions of Led Zepplin II. So I won't say that.

But he did tour and use solid state Rickenbacker Transonic amps during their first American tour. These same amps were also used by Steppenwolf, Jeff Beck, Strawberry Alarm Clock, and many others.

Can you doubt that that face and expression is not one of loving his tone?

For some reason, Rickenbacker solid state amps didn't receive the same complaints as other makers of solid state equipment. At least not at the time. I'd personally love to find one of these transonic amps!!

a lot of the british bands when they came over for their first tours had to make do with whatever gear they could beg, borrow or rent.... The Who first toured the USA in 1967 and they hated the VOX Super Beatle things they were forced to use.... same could be said of Zeppelin.... when the money started coming in they could pay for overseas shipping for their gear... and in the end have a privite plane

 

[The Golden Boy]

Re: Jimmie Page on Whole Lotta Love

As I recall, the Rick amps were former Yardbirds properties- he used them because he had them. I also recall him referring to them as either "funny" or "goofy."