Just gotta understand these meter readings for these HBs -- haha

Re: Just gotta understand these meter readings for these HBs -- haha

I need to start rolling my volume down to get more br00tal output! DC =/= output. It just gives a ballpark for which category like low output, medium output, high output etc. A 16K pickup doesn't necessarily mean it has more output than a 15K output pickup, just they are generally high output.

But 114.0K...Challenge accepted...
 
Re: Just gotta understand these meter readings for these HBs -- haha

Myaccount876 said:
But 114.0K...Challenge accepted...
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Ok . . . try this. Solder a 10M resistor in series with your output. Using DCR as your measure, you should be able fry eggs with your output voltage. The reality is, you won't likely hear a thing. ;)

The only DCR that counts, (and even then, not much), is the DCR of the coil windings.
 
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ArtieToo said:
Ok . . . try this. Solder a 10M resistor in series with your output. Using DCR as your measure, you should be able fry eggs with your output voltage. The reality is, you won't likely hear a thing. ;)

The only DCR that counts, (and even then, not much), is the DCR of the coil windings.
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This indeed an interesting thread -- nonetheless, these readings are what surprised me the night before and what made me double check them -- literally as I posted what I got in these various instances the next morning writing the original posting (fwiw):

Hybrid -- 114.0K and 35.02K

Custom 85 -- 104.4 and 28.48K

Stock w/Bill Lawrence -- 95.1K and 117.5K.

The plain truth all of us want to know how to make better educated choices (guesses) than we can currently can make, given the info we have to use.
 
Re: Just gotta understand these meter readings for these HBs -- haha

We can use DC resistance to estimate the output of a coil because there's a direct, positive correlation between DC resistance and wire length. The more wire a coil has the higher its DC resistance, but it's the coil wire length that's important, not the resistance. Once the coil begins to generate voltage and current when the strings move its resistance is pretty much meaningless to the guitar circuit.
 
Re: Just gotta understand these meter readings for these HBs -- haha

You are measuring the resistance of the whole circuit inside the guitar when you measure at the jack...or at least the part of it that you have working at the time (via pickup selector switch).

You probably can't find much previous work on that sort of question because it would be pointless to have the answer. If you want to know what happens to output when you turn down your volume knob to a certain number, then all you need to do is plug the guitar into your rig and listen. But I suppose that if you really wanted to know the nitty-gritty details of how the electrical output is affected by the position of the pots, then amp[ere]s would be the things to measure...and if you wanted to know how the sonic output is affected, you'd need to measure decibels (and it would vary for each rig).
 
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Re: Just gotta understand these meter readings for these HBs -- haha

And output at the speaker end would then be compromised by amp compression, even with what we normally call 'clean' tone.

The only way to do what you want is to plug your guitar into an oscilloscope and measure the frequency response pattern at each level you want, taking into account picking strength, where on the string you had the plectrum, how far away the pickup is from the strings, where the polepieces were situated etc etc. Then you've got to take into account the resonant peak of the pickup and how that is affected, and how that relates to how you perceive the word 'loud'
You'll then have about 50 different graphs which keep you quiet for quite a while to try and get meaning from.
 
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