Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

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so basically I got a 1976 Traynor YBA-2b EL84 tube bass combo to use with guitar because I know how good these Ampeg and Traynor bass amps sound with guitar and well it sounds exactly how I wanted it too. After a week of enjoying the hell out of this 3 knob amp I decided to borrow a friends bass and start learning and I have picked it up pretty fast and really love the feel of bass so I'm looking to get my own Fender style bass(I just love how they look and feel) but I cannot decide between P-bass or Jazz bass... I play sputtery heavier stoner rock bass but want some of that rattle to my sound aswell

thanks in advance for the suggestions and please share your experience with these basses
 
Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

Whatever you want man. They're both great for what they are. My bass player swears by the jazz for everything, and he's playing in a doom metal side project.
 
Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

Whatever you want man. They're both great for what they are. My bass player swears by the jazz for everything, and he's playing in a doom metal side project.

yeah I was leaning towards either the squire classic vibe jazz bass or the 50s P bass... I will try several jazz basses out at the shop thanks!
 
Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

Either would be great for a starter. It really comes down to what you prefer; I leaned toward the jazz side initially. Nowadays, I appreciate a good P bass just as much.
 
Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

Just focus more on the feel of the instrument in your hands, rather than the tone (I know that's hard). It'll make it much easier to gel with the instrument, and as you're learning, you're going to sound like sh!t anyway; I know I do...
 
Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

The Precision bass (the new style with the split pickup) is a bit easier. It sounds meatier and might perform more reliably in your first gig situation because of it. It doesn't hum. You can't fiddle with the electronics.
 
Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

the splti coil Pbass in fiesta red by Squier looks pretty good and I tried one out and liked it but the neck almost felt shorter than the Ibanez soundgear I got now. What is the main differences between the split coil p bass and the 50s style single coil p bass ?
 
Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

the splti coil Pbass in fiesta red by Squier looks pretty good and I tried one out and liked it but the neck almost felt shorter than the Ibanez soundgear I got now. What is the main differences between the split coil p bass and the 50s style single coil p bass ?

The main difference is the pickup position, followed by the split pickup having more steam (twice the magnets, some phase issues etc).
 
Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

The main difference is the split coil is inherently humbucking. IMHO.
 
Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

Even though i'm not a bass player I like the sound of a P-bass. I like a bass to sound like a bass and to me a Jazz bass sounds a bit brighter to me.
 
Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

Even though i'm not a bass player I like the sound of a P-bass. I like a bass to sound like a bass and to me a Jazz bass sounds a bit brighter to me.

I think that's why jazz and metal players like it, because it does sound a little like a guitar and it has that good growl. I like the J-bass myself, mostly because the P-bass' neck tends to be on the thicker side, where as the jazz is tiny.
 
Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

Well i'm leaning towards the P-Bass after reading some of this... I like the deep sound and using EQ and pedals for other sounds I want...
 
Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

I've never had any problem getting a very deep and rich bass out of my Jazz. The thing that I really like is the versatility of the Jazz. You can get the deep mellow tones for sure but you can get some nice bright guitar-like tones as well...very Rickenbacker-like, and everything in between. And, the neck just fits my hand better than the P-Bass (it's a little smaller and faster).

You just can't go wrong starting out on a J-Bass.
 
Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

The neck dimensions could be an issue. The nut width of a traditional P is wider than the J.

If you cannot decide between P and J, consider the Squier Vintage Modified Jaguar Bass. This is available with either PJ pickups or a single dual coil pickup in the "Stingray" position. Both versions have active EQ.
 
Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

Either or really, go with what sounds good to you and what feels right when it play it.
Both are great work horses and solid all round instruments.
 
Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

For a first bass I'd definitely decide based on Neck Dimension. Once you nail that down it should be easy. A P-Bass pickup is classic, and you can replace a Jazz pickup with a noise canceling, hotter model. Really, you can't go wrong with either.
 
Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

I would go for the jazz bass on the fact that you can get more sounds out of it and the neck is a little thinner in terms of width.
 
Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

Jazz necks are ideal for beginners IMO. When I first started playing bass 15 years ago I bought a Squier II P-bass. It was pretty good besides being a pawn shop purchase that had already been pretty beat up. That neck was a bit big for my then teenage hands but I still managed to play. My next bass was a P-Bass Deluxe (the early 2000's passive electronics ones) but not American, I believe it was Mexican. It was great, it featured the slimmer Jazz neck and also had the P/J pickup configuration. That is a really nice and versatile combination. I even threw a Hot Seymour Duncan Stack Jazz neck pickup in my current Warmoth J bass to bring me back to these kind of tones. They can do rock, reggae, metal, funk, jazz, slap, punk, classic rock, country, and even polka!

My next suggestion would be a Music Man SUB bass, they have one that mimics the Sting Ray and you can find them for about $500-$600 if you are looking for active bass tones with a big, thick, hip-hop like bottom end or if you need to mimic a rhythm guitar in a 3 piece band at times. Active also does articulation very well if you are aiming to be a fusion player one day or need to sometimes cut through a metal mix. They are harder for beginners to get comfortable (because they pick up every little noise) with but when played through an amp help you develop a lighter touch faster if you work on it thanks to the clicking of the frets that is picked up by the pre-amp of the bass.

I'm a GK man when it comes to amps. I'll die a GK man when it comes to amps. Gallien-Krueger makes a fine and very versatile amp suitable for all styles and all players.
 
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Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

I prefer P-Basses because to me they sound better, they look better, and the necks feel better. Nothing about a Jazz Bass "does it" for me. But that's just personal preference. What you should probably do is to go try a bunch, and walk out of the shop with the one that sounds, feels, and looks the best to you.
 
Re: Just Learning Bass. Jazz Bass Or P-Bass ?

Is the bass guitar sound on "Whole Lotta Love" deep and full enough for yez? That was John Paul Jones on a Fender Jazz Bass with round wound strings and, I suspect, a plectrum.

Last weekend, I blew a large sum of money on a 2012 Fender American Vintage Re-Issue series '62 style Jazz Bass. I cannot tell you how good this instrument is without swearing.

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If you like the idea of the Squier CV '51 style Precision Bass, find a pre-owned example and change the pickup. An active Stratocaster or Telecaster neck position guitar pickup would fit and sound much better than the stock item. (I have EMG-FT pickups in my Chapman Stick. The low end response IS there!)
 
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