keys and scales.

Re: keys and scales.

Hi Kelvin ...

not to poo-poo or demean or negate in any way what has been written about scales here so far, if your ultimate goal is to improvise melody, try also keeping close track of chords. Chords, as they come and go in the time line, are a much better way in my opinion to create melody. Using each chord's tones, and they are always scattered the length of the fretboard, as the main notes of your melody will always yield strong, relevant melody. They can, of course be connected up with other notes as needed, and those become very obvious once you get the hang of tracking chord tones.

I only say this because I gave up scales decades ago as a means to improvise. Chords, again this is just my opinion, are a much better aspect of music to concentrate on, for they have already crytallized the raw scales into music, they have set up the context.

Spend an evening just plotting out all possible G chords, from nut to 25th fret. Figure out different ways to finger the notes, grab from adjoining shapes and positions ... then start playing these notes as single notes ... use just one finger to make sure you're not just letting your muscle memory do the work for you. Do it to all chords ... you will be amazed at how the fretboard will open up to you. What will happen is that you will see all scales at once ... you will see that at any given moment in any given tune, there are 12 notes and a heirarchy of importance set up by (the key, firstly) and the chord of the moment ... naturally, the chord tones themselves (at least 1-3-5) are the boss notes ... any extensions, like 7th, flat9, sharp5 ... all boss ... any scale notes from the mother key are next down the list (they're connecting notes)... all others from the chromatic scale next (finer resolution connecting notes). This all just becomes second nature once you can keep track of the chord of the moment.

Of course, if what you want to do IS to memorize scales and play them up and down at blinding speed ... then disregard the above. Learn all scales.

If you're interested in listening to some of my music to see if what I say is true, visit my Soundclick page http://www.soundclick.com/pro/?BandID=156391

All the best,

Kirk
 
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Re: keys and scales.

here are the current scales im using im showing you in key of A

A Major A B C# D E F# G# A
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8


A Pentatonic Major A B C# E F# A
1 2 3 5 6 8


A Blues A C D Eb E G A
1 b3 4 b5 5 b7 8

A Natural Minor A B C D E F G A
1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7 8


*Note i use 2 fingerboard positions with them all
 
Re: keys and scales.

Wihout scales, you dont have chords... unti you realize that you can pretend all day long that you dont use scales... Where would the "1-3-5" come from if this isnt so? Fact still remains that you extract chord tones from the scales, might as well embrace that...

The easiedt way to plot out the G chords, or any other chord is by using the CAGED system... There are only five chord patterns from which all chords are based... The C form, A form, G form,, E form, and D form...That accronym was developed for ease of memory by mnemonics... The first form you encounter working from nut to bridge, 6th string to 1st, is actually the E-form...

Since Kirk suggested the G chord, I will use those....

The first G Chord available uses the G-From, which is located at the 3rd fret.... This is the standard G-chord, so that is all there is to that one... But if you were to apply the major scale pattern, you would see WHY the 1-3-5 are G-B-D....

The next G chord is available using the E-form is at the 3rd fret... Barre the 3rd fret and follow with the E chord.... You can also base the scales off this position...

The next G chord available moving from the nut to the bridge, is the D form... The root is on the 4th string at the 5th fret... Barre the bottom 4 strings ath the 3rd fret and play a D-chord with the root on the 5th.. this is a little awkward, but it gives you an idea where the next chord is... I dont normally play this chord in the mix, but I do use it for the next available scale position to link the fretboard togther...

The next one up is the C-From at the 10th fret on the 5th string... That is the root position of the C chord, and you barre at the 7th fret... Again, not a very useful chord, but it is useful for linking scales across the fretboatrd...

The next form is the A-form, and it uses the same root as the C-form, the 10th fret of the 5th string... Only this time you barre the 1oth fret and play the A-chord on the 12 fret of the 4th, 3rd, and 2nd strings and the 3rd octave of the root on the 1st string 10th fret... Two barres involved... on the 10th fret 5th -1st strings, and the 12th fret 4-2nd strings... This is the last position available... The rest are simply octaves of the first 5 positions! TOO EASY!!!!!

To repeat....

G-Form - 3rd Fret of the 6th string
E-Form - Barre 3rd fret Fret of the 6th String
D-Form - Barre the root on the 4th string at the 5th fret
C-Form - Barre the 7th fret and play the C-chord with root on 1oth fret of 5th string
A-Form - Barre the root at the 10th fret of the 5th string and play the A-chord on the 12 fret of the 2nd-4th strings

If this is too confusing to read, I have a chart that I can PM you that provides the same applications... The cool thing is that you can move these... If you need to play in the key of F, apply these principles one step, or 2 frets down... If you need to play in A, then slide up 2 frets!

Again, this is called the CAGED system because you are using the 5 positions to achieve the scales needed to develop the chords you want!
 
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