Killer New Egnater Rebel 20!!!

[J Moose]

Re: Killer New Egnater Rebel 20!!!

I think the Egnater Rebel 20 with it's matching 212 would one heck of a gigging rig for someone that knows how to work a single channel amp. Luckily, it's voicing is really dialed in.

The million dollar question.

For you & some other guys have played one... how do you find it responding dynamically to the guitars volume control?

In other words, when you turn it down, does it clean up?

I'm REALLY curious... because last week, before I wrecked my car I was at a GuiTarget with time to kill (lady was shopping next door) and when I walked in, right there in front of me was a display of Egnator amps and Slash goldtops. Mostly Epis... but there was one Gibson and a Rebel on standby with a cable plugged in, going through the 2x12 cab.

Totally meant to be.

Unfortunately after about 10 or 15 minutes, some fat kid with greasy hair and tie-dye sticking out from under his shirt yells...

"HEEEEEEY BUDDDY. TURN. IT. DOWN."

The absolute last thing I want to hear when checking out an amp that I'm actually kinda interested in. Yet another reason I stopped shopping there...

Snapped around... "Dude... it's on ONE. WATT."

Anyway... I played the prototype with my Alnico II loaded Lester... and used the Gibson Slash with those AII's at GC... So maybe I'm thinking it doesn't like the AII's which would be odd because they have SUCH a low output, but I found that with the amp gain at 2 o'clock or higher, that when I rolled the guitar volume back, the Rebel just would NOT clean up. Not at all.

I'd roll the guitar volume back about half-way and it was still raging.

Roll the volume all the way off, and then barely crack it open and it was still all "BWWWAAAAAAAAHHHH"

Instantly dirty.

When it was wide open, yeah... the amp sounds pretty good. I liked it with the bright switch on & the 6V6 side. EL84's seemed to add volume AND top end... but the lack of dynamic response is a HUGE bummer. It was worse as I truncated the wattage dial, where it seemed to almost gate the signal to some degree.

I really doubt it's the guitars I've used. That LP (mine) cleans up with many an amp... Marshall 800s, the Rivera, VHT, various Boogies... even stompbox gain gets clean.

Maybe the Rebel I played was defective.

Maybe I need better drugs...

Anybody have a different experience?

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Killer New Egnater Rebel 20!!!

I dunno man, you really got to try an amp to know if you love it or not. For me. I like it enough to own one, but I'm pretty set for amps. I just dig it though, because the concept is great, and it delivers in sound just as it does on paper.

I think it's well worth the retail price, which is unusual for me, but if you can get it cheaper, it's a real bargain for good tone. As a studio amp, I think it's in the top 10 of amps I've ever played through. I really do want one. But I want everything I play that I like. That's the problem!!! LOL

And by the way....glad to see you made it through that disaster still alive!!! Rather than amps, you've got new/used cars to consider. Get a Toyota Tacoma 4 cyl pickup. I loved the one I had. It's perfect for a guitarist who needs to move stuff and save on gas. Then put a tonneau cover on it, so you can see out your back window perfectly, but still cover your gear.

 

[J Moose]

Re: Killer New Egnater Rebel 20!!!

I'd say "fat boy, shut your F'in A33!" hahahahahahaha

I dunno man, you really got to try an amp to know if you love it or not. For me. I like enough to own one, but I'm pretty set for amps. I just dig it though, because the concept is great, and it delivers in sound just as it does on paper.

HAHAHAHA

I went right back to shreddin' and turned the master or the wattage up... I forget which, and gave it a good thrashing for another 30 seconds or so before I decided to dial in some clean tones... and jack the master volume up!

Really... too loud for phat hippie man? Sorry dude... one watt... master on two. And that's too loud?

Holy moly.

I don't really need more amps either... I've got that 800, a Rivera Rake... UK built AC30tbx... But the 800 and the Rivera are stepping on each other and I need to part with one and get something with a wholly different flavor. Maybe a VHT or something... I used to have a Pitbull, traded it even for the Vox. I am eying something that's going to be for production work rather then "my" amp so it's gotta be versatile... and sound good!

It's like, I've only played the Tiny Terror a few times but I've dug it each time. Great dynamics and it takes pedals really well. I wonder how the Rebel would take to stompboxes...

Frankly, looking at that low-wattage Engnator for $600... it's not far off from a Boogie 5:25 head which has two channels... and verb. Those are under $1k... Dr Z, there's a lot of cool amps out there. Hell, get a used Boogie DC or F series for the same coin as new Egnator...

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: Killer New Egnater Rebel 20!!!

Looks like a good amp that one!

Classic Lead80s are good for meaty fat amps, and folks who like controlled speakers...