Kiss your ash goodbye

[Ascension]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

As far as I know(usually wrong) that's more commonly called swamp ash.......and yeah it's good and still a pretty widely used wood, but this whole thread was news to me(ash being "phased" out)

ABSOLUTELY WRONG on Swamp Ash!!REAL Swamp ash is from the lower part of the Ash Tree in particular roots that are semi Submerged . It's super light porous and super resonate have owned several true swamp ash guitars like my Orange Washburn USA Chicago Custom MG 102 I know the difference. Most ash guitars you see are hard northern ash the stuff they make baseball bats out of. Super dense painfully BRIGHT and as heavy as rock maple. Kiesel is still offering true Swamp as an option on new builds BTW.

 

[orpheo]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

ABSOLUTELY WRONG on Swamp Ash!!REAL Swamp ash is from the lower part of the Ash Tree in particular roots that are semi Submerged . It's super light porous and super resonate have owned several true swamp ash guitars like my Orange Washburn USA Chicago Custom MG 102 I know the difference. Most ash guitars you see are hard northern ash the stuff they make baseball bats out of. Super dense painfully BRIGHT and as heavy as rock maple. Kiesel is still offering true Swamp as an option on new builds BTW.

Interesting. You find swamp ash more resonant than hard ash? Really? I have never been able to get along with swamp ash. It sounds so flat and boring to me. Hard ash just has so much more punch and attack. And never ever have I described it as 'painfully' bright.

 

[nexion218]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

I think it’s because at the end of the day we are clueless and want to use things that have worked for our heroes (or for ourselves), for lack of certainty about other options.

This coin has two sides too. In theory I agree that we should be a bit more open minded. Imagine if our ancestors had the same mindset... We'd be still collecting berries out in the wild! But the flipside - at least for me - is that I am very suspicious about the PR and marketing antics of just about any production company and I cannot take their their statements about the woods they use (and about the decisions that led them to using that specific wood) seriously. All of them sound like a desperate attempt at hogwashing and sugarcoating a costsaving financial decision made at the roundtable instead of the luthier's shop. Of course, they might be true, but companies have done enough bullsh!tting in the past that it instilled the fear of it in me.

Transparency would lead to trust which would generate income. Not as much and not as immediate as the current method, but at least it would be sustainable in every aspect.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

Interesting. You find swamp ash more resonant than hard ash? Really? I have never been able to get along with swamp ash. It sounds so flat and boring to me. Hard ash just has so much more punch and attack. And never ever have I described it as 'painfully' bright.

My 1982 'The Strat' is hard ash, and it sounds great. But it weighs a lot. I can see why it isn't popular as a body wood.

 

[NegativeEase]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

White pine sounds better to my ears over Swamp Ash.

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Both sound better than getting a case of the Swamp Ass.

 

[YeRedHouseOverYonder]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

Both sound better than getting a case of the Swamp Ass.

+1

I unfortunately got a case or two (many) during my time in Afghanistan lol. I can attest to this.

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