Knockin at Your Back Door

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Well, being out of the rock game for 20 years or so will dull your instincts a bit. I would think that these days, Blackmore isn't going to listen to a producer, and has probably lost touch with his rock fans for quite some time. The new song would be better with JLT singing, though.
 
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I liked JLT when I was an impressionable teenager. Few vocalists have survived my changing tastes. JLT was not one of them. Graham Bonnet, on the other hand...

Can JLT even sing anymore or has he suffered the same fate as Steve Perry? (I was a fan of Journey when Gregg Rolie was the singer)
 
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True, and whilst he has had more good guitar work in Blackmore's Night than he is usually given credit for, it is only to be expected that his chops are starting to suffer too, at 70.

Desipte that, the good thing about the track is that you can hear that it is Blackmore, and not one of the imitators – not Stuart Smith, not Joe Stump. Many sound like Blackmore, but Blackmore sound like no-one, and this proves it.
 
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I liked JLT when I was an impressionable teenager. Few vocalists have survived my changing tastes. JLT was not one of them. Graham Bonnet, on the other hand...

Can JLT even sing anymore or has he suffered the same fate as Steve Perry? (I was a fan of Journey when Gregg Rolie was the singer)

I have heard some conflicting reports live, but until recently, at least, I would say he was as good as ever in the studio. He still sounds a bit precocious to me when he was in Rainbow. By the time of the Yngwie album, he had truly come into his own – too bad heavy metal would come crashing down soon thereafter.
 
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Man, I hated JLT when I first heard him. Now I dig his voice in a nostalgic way. It just happens that the music he is suited to singing sounds pretty dated, too.
 
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I liked Straight Between The Eyes. I also dug Odyssey when it came out. It was right for the time even if it wasn't plastered with enough spandex and makeup.

As Above, So Below and I Am a Viking are still tops for me. The vocals on Trilogy...sorry to have mentioned it.

Ian Gillan is still entertaining, though.
 
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I'm a huge Rainbow fan, but the new song sounds kind of generic to me. To me, it sounds like it could have been a B-side from the JLT era, which means that it is fine, but hardly comeback material.

I really like the new song. Reminds me more of Stranger In Us All, which I think was the best Rainbow since Dio.

I don't like JLT era Rainbow that much. It's good but really generic, meh... Graham Bonnet was good.
 
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Stranger in us All to me was a very mixed bag in my opinion. I think they tried to do too many things, and ultimately didn't completely succeed with any of them. I know that Ritchie originally wanted commercial songs, and whilst Too Late for Tears and Wolf to the Moon still work, Stand and Fight and Silence really don't; to me, they are probably the worst thing Rainbow ever did. In a way, I think the distinction between these songs and the JLT era is largely irrelevant, as they sound like throwaway JLT songs to me. None of them approach songs like Spotlight Kid or Death Alley Driver.

Then there are the gothic songs, that got introduced after Ritchie and Candice started writing together. I think these songs, as a whole, are better, but Hunting Humans (Insatible) really don't work for me. Ariel and Black Masquerade are cool, though, even though the latter is a bit of a throwback to Anya. Hall of the Mountain King is wonky, but fun; my old band used to do that. Still I'm Sad is decent, but has the distinct disadvantage that it tries to recreate what Ritchie did live with Dio, and there is no way they could pull that off.

All things considered, I like it, but I also find it to be a very mixed bag in more than one way. I can forgive that, though, and enjoy it for what it is. It was, after all, released in 1995, and that was a dark, dark era for all old-school heavy bands.
 
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Man, I hated JLT when I first heard him. Now I dig his voice in a nostalgic way. It just happens that the music he is suited to singing sounds pretty dated, too.

I remember being 15 and seeing the video to Since You've Been Gone. I've never felt so betrayed in my life: here was my favourite band, but suddenly with a guy with short hair on vocals, singing love songs, and worst of all, the bassist is wearing a white suit! Keep in mind, I was 15 in 2001, so my overreaction was ridiculous in more than one way. It eventually took me longer to warm up to Bonnet than JLT, and that was probably based on that incident.

But man, Blackmore was on fire in those days. Live Between the Eyes has some of his best playing, in my opinion.
 
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I will wait until the new DVD is out. Maybe he was offered a ton of money to do it...but I think something remarkable had to happen now for him to put the band back together. I still hear traces of old Blackmore in there, but hey, he has done it all. I can't blame him not wanting to play 50 year old music he wrote in his 20s anymore.
 
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I remember being 15 and seeing the video to Since You've Been Gone. I've never felt so betrayed in my life: here was my favourite band, but suddenly with a guy with short hair on vocals, singing love songs, and worst of all, the bassist is wearing a white suit! Keep in mind, I was 15 in 2001, so my overreaction was ridiculous in more than one way. It eventually took me longer to warm up to Bonnet than JLT, and that was probably based on that incident.

But man, Blackmore was on fire in those days. Live Between the Eyes has some of his best playing, in my opinion.

You weren't alone on his short hair evaluation...


And Blackmore was an adult!
 
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Stranger in us All to me was a very mixed bag in my opinion. I think they tried to do too many things, and ultimately didn't completely succeed with any of them. I know that Ritchie originally wanted commercial songs, and whilst Too Late for Tears and Wolf to the Moon still work, Stand and Fight and Silence really don't; to me, they are probably the worst thing Rainbow ever did. In a way, I think the distinction between these songs and the JLT era is largely irrelevant, as they sound like throwaway JLT songs to me. None of them approach songs like Spotlight Kid or Death Alley Driver.

Then there are the gothic songs, that got introduced after Ritchie and Candice started writing together. I think these songs, as a whole, are better, but Hunting Humans (Insatible) really don't work for me. Ariel and Black Masquerade are cool, though, even though the latter is a bit of a throwback to Anya. Hall of the Mountain King is wonky, but fun; my old band used to do that. Still I'm Sad is decent, but has the distinct disadvantage that it tries to recreate what Ritchie did live with Dio, and there is no way they could pull that off.

All things considered, I like it, but I also find it to be a very mixed bag in more than one way. I can forgive that, though, and enjoy it for what it is. It was, after all, released in 1995, and that was a dark, dark era for all old-school heavy bands.

For me the Stand up and fight was/is a nice throwback from first Rainbow album. Shameless good old rock'n'roll! I agree about Silence, just pointless song, and worst in the album (one I never can actually recall how it goes...)

The Gothic songs are the thing of that album for me. Awesome. I think Black Masquerade is one of the greatest Rainbow songs, on the level with Dio era: I did notice the similarities to Anya, but I actually heard that couple of years after the Rainbow song, so...

Album version of Still I'm Sad is instrumental, so for me it's different enough to not make instant comparison. Both versions are great.

I have to say Ariel is one of the highlights of that album. Song that completely keeps changing shape, while maintaining the feel thorough. Brilliant, inspirational song.
 
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I will wait until the new DVD is out. Maybe he was offered a ton of money to do it...but I think something remarkable had to happen now for him to put the band back together. I still hear traces of old Blackmore in there, but hey, he has done it all. I can't blame him not wanting to play 50 year old music he wrote in his 20s anymore.

I think he said in interview that he wanted Rainbow back on stage for a few concerts, as he saw so many of artists he knew and other contemporaries to pass away.
 
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Album version of Still I'm Sad is instrumental, so for me it's different enough to not make instant comparison. Both versions are great.

If you haven't heard it, you really need to check out the live versions of this with the Dio era. That might just be my favourite Rainbow song, and it blows both the studio versions out of the water, in my opinion. One of my great musical sorrows is that the Dio-era band never did a studio cut of that version.
 
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I saw Deep Purple during their Perfect Strangers tour in Indy. Awesome show despite Blackmore being sicker than a dog.


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I saw him during DP's House of Blue Light tour, which wasn't a great album, and Ritchie was in quite a mood. Many of his solos that night consisted of one note feeding back for the entire solo. He really wasn't up to playing much that night. I can imagine how tough it must be to be in a band with someone like that.
 
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Like I said, hes a jerk. You have a problem with a guy or two, it happens. But when you have a problem with everybody, its him. The guy strikes me as a miserable arrogant man. I will give em this, his ole lady is pretty smokin hot
 
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I saw him during DP's House of Blue Light tour, which wasn't a great album, and Ritchie was in quite a mood. Many of his solos that night consisted of one note feeding back for the entire solo. He really wasn't up to playing much that night. I can imagine how tough it must be to be in a band with someone like that.

He definitely didn't give a fk about the money you and the rest of the audience had paid to see the band.

I saw Steve Vai years ago. He was doing a solo with the triple necked Jem, no backup, sitting down. Suddenly the sound got cut off for about 10 seconds. He yelled his poor tech Thomas Nordegg, then kicked the boomstand on the neck song to vent his anger, but the nevertheless show was saved; true professional.

I saw a DVD of the new Rainbow a few months ago. The singer looked more like a YouTube celebrity than a rocker. But man, his vocals was killer! He sounded a lot like Dio for sure.
 
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I think Vai used to be a prick, but I gotta say, he seems to have mellowed with age and actually seems like a nice guy now. Paul Gilbert is a guy that just may have the best right hand in all of guitar, chops to die for, but it seems he enjoys teaching as much as playing. Down to Earth, modest and a cool dude. Cant say his playing was my favorite thru his career, but if I could jam with one of the superstars, it would be him. He probably wouldnt even laugh at my suckage
 
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He definitely didn't give a fk about the money you and the rest of the audience had paid to see the band.

I saw Steve Vai years ago. He was doing a solo with the triple necked Jem, no backup, sitting down. Suddenly the sound got cut off for about 10 seconds. He yelled his poor tech Thomas Nordegg, then kicked the boomstand on the neck song to vent his anger, but the nevertheless show was saved; true professional.

I saw a DVD of the new Rainbow a few months ago. The singer looked more like a YouTube celebrity than a rocker. But man, his vocals was killer! He sounded a lot like Dio for sure.

Yeah, he didn't care that much about the money we paid...it is sad that, as one of my absolute favorite guitarists, this was the one live impression I got. They released a live CD of the tour, and apparently he did the very same thing most of the nights, because that's what the CD sounds like. Not DP's finest moment, but I have to hand it to them- you can tell they tried to cover for him.
 
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